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#132 Edwin Land (Steve Jobs's Hero)

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Notable books mentioned: The Instant Image, Edwin Land and the Polaroid, A Triumph for Genius, Edwin Land, Polaroid, and the Kodak Patent War, Instant, The Story of Polaroid by Christopher Bananos, Insisting on the Impossible by Edwin Land

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#132 Edwin Land (Steve Jobs's Hero) mentions The Instant Image, Edwin Land and the Polaroid, A Triumph for Genius, Edwin Land, Polaroid, and the Kodak Patent War, Instant, The Story of Polaroid by Christopher Bananos, and Insisting on the Impossible by Edwin Land with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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This is not surprising, since Land owes his success to the realizing of his own creative potential.

Apple founder Steve Jobs once hailed Edwin Land, the founder of Polaroid and the father of instant photography, as a national treasure.

And one of the reasons he did that was because he was a fan of the book.

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What I learned from reading The Instant Image: Edwin Land and the Polaroid Experience by Mark Olshaker. ---- [1:42] The word “problem” had completely departed from Edwin land's vocabulary to be replaced by the word “opportunity”. [2:01] What was it about this man and his company that allowed such confidence and seeming lack of concern with the traditional top priorities of American business? [2:38] There is something unique about Polaroid having to do both with the human dimension of the company, and with a unity of vision of its founder and guiding genius. [3:36] Perhaps the single most important aspect of Land's character is his ability to regard things around him in a new and totally different way. [4:14] Right from the beginning of his career Land had paid scant attention to what experts had to say, trusting his own instincts instead. [4:49] Land has always believed that for any item sufficiently ingenious and intriguing, a new market could be created. Conventional wisdom has little capacity with which to evaluate a market that did not exist prior to the product that defines it. [5:21] He feels that creativity is an individual thing. Not generally applicable to group generation. [5:52] Land is a man deeply caught up in the creative potential of the individual. [6:33] An institution is the lengthened shadow of one man. [7:43] Apple founder Steve Jobs once hailed Edwin Land, the founder of Polaroid and the father of instant photography, as "a national treasure" and once confessed to a reporter that meeting Land was "like visiting a shrine." By his own admission, Jobs modeled much of his own career after Land’s. Both Jobs and Land stand out today as unique and towering figures in the history of technology. Neither had a college degree, but both built highly successful and innovative organizations. Jobs and Land were both perfectionists with an almost fanatic attentiveness to detail, in addition to being consummate showmen and instinctive marketers. In many ways, Edwin Land was the original Steve Jobs. [8:36] There's a rule that they don't teach you at the Harvard business school. It is, if anything is worth doing it's worth doing to excess. [11:22] Steve Jobs: I always thought of myself as a humanities person as a kid, but I liked electronics. Then I read something that one of my heroes, Edwin Land of Polaroid, said about the importance of people who could stand at the intersection of humanities and sciences. And I decided that's what I wanted to do. [12:51] In a world full of cooks, Edwin Land was a chef. [Link to The Cook and The Chef: Elon Musk’s Secret Sauce] [19:34] Land was asked what he wanted to be when he was younger: I had two goals. To be the world's greatest scientist and to be the world's greatest novelist. [21:28] Everyone acknowledged that the future of Polaroid corporation would be determined by what went on in the brain of Edwin Land. [22:01] My motto is very personal and may not fit anyone else or any other company. It is: Don't do anything that someone else can do. [22:54] Fortunately our company has been one which has been dedicated throughout its life to making only things which others can not make. [25:06] Land had far more faith in his own potential, and that of the company he inspired, than did any of the experts looking in from the outside. [27:30] Polaroid failed to build a successful company by selling to other businesses: Each [product] would have involved millions of dollars in revenue for the company, but each invention involved a certain degree of transformation of an existing industry controlled by an existing power structure. From this Land realizes he needs to control the relationship with the customer. He realizes he needs to sell directly to the end user. [36:16] Edwin Land is inspired by, and learned from, people that came before him. One example of this is Alexander Graham Bell. Edwin Land is not worried about the marketing [of a new product] because Bell went through the same thing: Land apparently lost little sleep over the initial situation, calling to mind that the same sort of reaction had greeted the public introduction of Bell's telephone, 70 years earlier. The telephone had been a dominant symbol in Land's thinking. He began making numerous connections between his camera and the telephone. [40:16] Over the years, I have learned that every significant invention has several characteristics. By definition it must be startling, unexpected, and must come into a world that is not prepared for it. If the world were prepared for it, it would not be much of an invention. [40:46] It is the public's role to resist [a new invention, a new product/service]. [41:29] It took us a lifetime to understand that if we're to make a new commodity —a commodity of beauty —then we must be prepared for the extensive teaching program needed to prepare society for the magnitude of our invention. [45:12] Only the individual— and not the large group— can see a part of the world in a totally new and different way. [48:08] Land's view is that a company should be scientifically daring and financially conservative. [50:30] To understand more about every aspect of light, Edwin Land read every single book on light that was available in the New York City Public Library. That reminded me of one of my favorite lectures ever: Running Down A Dream: How to Succeed and Thrive in a Career You Love [51:59] Land on the problem with formal education: Young people for the most part —unless they are geniuses— after a very short time in college, give up any hope of being individually great. [54:16] Among all the components and Land's intellectual arsenal, the chief one seems to be simple concentration. ---- Founders Notes gives you the ability to tap into the collective knowledge of history's greatest entrepreneurs on demand. Use it to supplement the decisions you make in your work. Get access to Founders Notes here. ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast
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The Instant Image, Edwin Land and the Polaroid cover
Best for Individuals interested in innovation and creativity in technologyOften cited around Edwin Land's creativity

This is an excerpt from the book that I want to talk to you about today, which is The Instant Image, Edwin Land and the Polaroid, and it comes from a section in the book called The Lengthened Shadow.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in innovation and creativity in technology
Key quote: This is not surprising, since Land owes his success to the realizing of his own creative potential.
The host discusses Edwin Land's innovative mindset and how he defied conventional wisdom in the development of Polaroid products. This leads to a detailed exploration of the book 'The Instant Image, Edwin Land and the Polaroid' as part of a series on Land's impact on photography and technology.
ASIN: 0812824423
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A Triumph for Genius, Edwin Land, Polaroid, and the Kodak Patent War cover
Best for Individuals interested in innovation and entrepreneurshipOften cited around Edwin Land's creativity

I'm going to be covering a giant book on Edwin Land. It's called A Triumph for Genius, Edwin Land, Polaroid, and the Kodak Patent War.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in innovation and entrepreneurship
Key quote: Apple founder Steve Jobs once hailed Edwin Land, the founder of Polaroid and the father of instant photography, as a national treasure.
The host discusses Edwin Land's unique approach to creativity and innovation, emphasizing his belief in individual creativity over group efforts. This leads to a mention of the book 'A Triumph for Genius' to provide further insight into Land's impact on technology and entrepreneurship.
ASIN: B00TJ3EDL6
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Instant, The Story of Polaroid cover
Best for Readers interested in innovation and the history of photographyOften cited around Edwin Land and creativity

I talked to you about what I learned from reading Insisting on the Impossible and the book Instant, The Story of Polaroid.

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For: Readers interested in innovation and the history of photography
Key quote: And one of the reasons he did that was because he was a fan of the book.
The host mentions 'Instant, The Story of Polaroid' to highlight Edwin Land's innovative approach to creating new markets through individual creativity. This book is part of a broader exploration of Land's impact on photography and technology, setting the stage for a detailed discussion on his life and work.
ASIN: 1616890851
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Insisting on the Impossible cover
Best for Individuals interested in innovation and creativityOften cited around Edwin Land's creativity

I talked to you about what I learned from reading Insisting on the Impossible and the book Instant, The Story of Polaroid.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in innovation and creativity
Key quote: If anything is worth doing, it's worth doing to excess.
The host mentions 'Insisting on the Impossible' to highlight Edwin Land's unique approach to creativity and market innovation. This book serves as a foundation for understanding Land's belief in individual creativity over conventional wisdom.
ASIN: 0738201901
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Fortuneless cover
Best for Entrepreneurs and innovators interested in business success storiesOften cited around Edwin Land's success journey

The excerpt discusses the financial success of Edwin Land, referring to him as one of the eighth wealthiest men in America, and mentions a Harvard study published 24 years prior.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Entrepreneurs and innovators interested in business success stories
Key quote: Each invention involved a certain degree of transformation of an existing industry controlled by existing power structure.
The host discusses the book 'Fortuneless' to highlight the contrasting paths of successful inventors like Edwin Land and Charles Goodyear. It emphasizes how Land's focus on innovation over immediate financial gain ultimately led to his significant wealth and impact.
ASIN: B0DB7G1XC2
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Edwin Land and the Polaroid Experience cover
Best for Individuals interested in innovation and product developmentOften cited around Edwin Land's vision

The subtitle of this book, Edwin Land and the Polaroid experience, highlights how Land sees himself as heading up an experience.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in innovation and product development
Key quote: Any man in Lance position must certainly possess an ego of monumental proportions.
The host discusses Edwin Land's unique perspective on product development and the emotional connections fostered by the Polaroid camera. This book is mentioned as a way to explore Land's artistic approach and the impact of his innovations on human relationships.
ASIN: 0812824423
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Creative Selection cover
Best for Entrepreneurs and innovators interested in product developmentOften cited around development of the iPhone

The speaker mentions a bonus episode on Steve Jobs based on the book, Creative Selection.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Entrepreneurs and innovators interested in product development
Key quote: If you want to know more about the development of the iPhone and went into that, I did a bonus episode on Steve Jobs based on the book, Creative Selection.
The host mentions 'Creative Selection' to highlight the parallels between the secretive development processes of the Polaroid camera and the iPhone. This book provides insights into the innovative approaches of key figures like Edmund Land and Steve Jobs, emphasizing their unique problem-solving methods during challenging times.
ASIN: 039913896X
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Polaroid cover
Best for Business leaders and entrepreneursOften cited around Edwin Land's corporate philosophy

The text refers to Polaroid's inventions and the challenges faced in achieving financial success, highlighting the company's efforts in the 1950s and 1940s.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Business leaders and entrepreneurs
Key quote: But to Edwin Land, facing what Fortune magazine would call the biggest gamble ever made on a consumer product, amidst this onslaught of seemingly insurmountable problems, inside the corporation in the form of cost overruns and the technologies which refused to be born, and outside in the form of a gradually deflating consumer economy, was to be regarded as the stuff of high technological drama.
The host discusses Edwin Land's unique perspective on challenges faced by Polaroid, emphasizing his ability to see opportunities instead of problems. This insight into Land's character and approach to business is central to understanding the company's narrative and its innovative spirit.
ASIN: 3836591995
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The Instant Image, Edwin Land and the Polaroid cover
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The Instant Image, Edwin Land and the Polaroid

The host discusses Edwin Land's innovative mindset and how he defied conventional wisdom in the development of Polaroid products. This leads to a d…

A Triumph for Genius, Edwin Land, Polaroid, and the Kodak Patent War cover
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A Triumph for Genius, Edwin Land, Polaroid, and the Kodak Patent War

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Instant, The Story of Polaroid cover
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Instant, The Story of Polaroid
Christopher Bananos

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