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The Jordan B. Peterson PodcastThe Meaning OfJul 28, 2025

566. The Meaning Of: There’s No Such Thing as a Dragon

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There's No Such Thing as a Dragon An Instinct for Dragons

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There's No Such Thing as a Dragon

Jack Kent

And that's what this little story is about.

An Instinct for Dragons

David E. Jones

There's a book that I found very useful in my analysis of such things called An Instinct for Dragons by a man named David E. Jones.

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In Answer the Call, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson returns to his roots, taking real calls from real people facing life’s hardest questions. Joined by his daughter, Mikhaila Fuller, the series transforms personal struggles into public insight—offering wisdom, empathy, and clarity in the face of chaos. Coming to DailyWire+ Monday, 8/4. A new podcast series, featured within Dr. Jordan B. Peterson’s episodes on YouTube and including an exclusive member segment on DailyWire+. Have a question you’d like to ask? Share your story here: dailywire.com/answerthecall What happens when you ignore a dragon? Dr. Jordan B. Peterson reads and analyzes “There’s No Such Thing as a Dragon” by Jack Kent, exploring its psychological and mythological depth. Using the children’s story as a springboard, Peterson unpacks themes of willful blindness, familial dysfunction, and the archetypal hero’s journey. He draws connections to ancient Egyptian mythology, the Exodus narrative, and the crucifixion of Christ—arguing that dragons—both literal and symbolic—grow when we refuse to confront them. If you’ve ever wondered what a kid’s book has to do with the fate of your household, your children, or your soul—this is the lecture for you. This episode was filmed on June 28th, 2025

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There's No Such Thing as a Dragon

Jack Kent

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An Instinct for Dragons

David E. Jones

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There's No Such Thing as a Dragon

Jack Kent

Best for Educators and students interested in narrative analysisOften cited around analysis of children's stories

“oday in the discussion of there's no such thing as a dragon. I want to show you a dragon that I have in my office here. This is a sculpture from Mexico, which I got several years ago. It's a circle, basically, and it has the head of a bird. kind of a monstrous bird, and it has wings like a dragon or like a bird, and it has a snake wrapped around the bird's neck, but it's an analog of a dragon. There's a book that I found very useful in my analysis of such things called An Instinct for Dragons by a man named David E. Jones, and David Jones offers essentially an evolutionary explanation for the concept of”

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For: Educators and students interested in narrative analysis

Key quote: “And that's what this little story is about.”

The host mentions 'There's No Such Thing as a Dragon' as part of a broader analysis of children's stories that explore narrative structures. This book is used to illustrate themes relevant to understanding the world through storytelling and the importance of confronting the unknown.

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An Instinct for Dragons

David E. Jones

Best for Those interested in narrative analysis and the symbolism in children's stories.Often cited around analysis of children's stories

“The speaker mentions 'An Instinct for Dragons' by David E. Jones, which offers an evolutionary explanation for the concept of dragons.”

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For: Those interested in narrative analysis and the symbolism in children's stories.

Key quote: “There's a book that I found very useful in my analysis of such things called An Instinct for Dragons by a man named David E. Jones.”

The host mentions 'An Instinct for Dragons' to provide an evolutionary perspective on the concept of dragons in narratives. This book helps illustrate how dragons symbolize predators and the unknown, which are central themes in storytelling.

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