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Is Kamala Harris Underrated? mentions Southerners by Marshall Freed, The Company She Keeps by Mary McCarthy, The Sheltering Sky by Paul Bowles, and Smart on Crime with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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Southerners
Marshall Freed

He is the kind of writer who you read him and you almost become angry because you just know you will never be that good at a sentence level.

The third I would recommend is The Company She Keeps by Mary McCarthy.

But it's about three Americans, three New Yorkers, who go to North Africa and are thinking of it as sort of just a tourist jaunt.

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If Joe Biden steps aside for the Democratic presidential nomination — still a very big if — the favorite to replace him is Vice President Kamala Harris. In recently leaked post-debate polling from Open Labs, Harris polled better than Biden in matchups against Trump. In 2019, Dana Goodyear wrote in The New Yorker, “As a Black, female law-and-order Democrat, Harris creates a kind of cognitive dissonance.” The profile Harris inhabited then would be welcome in an election year where disorder is on voters’ minds and the Republicans are nominating a convicted felon. But Harris hasn’t inhabited that political profile for years. And since becoming Biden’s vice president the conventional wisdom on her has shifted: She’s gone from rising star — many thought her “the next Obama” — to political underachiever. So I’ve had a few questions about Harris. What accounted for the fast fall from grace after she took the vice presidency? What happened to the smart-on-crime prosecutor we once saw? What has the White House done — or not done — to build her profile? And are critics of Harris fair, or is she underrated now? I’m joined by Elaina Plott Calabro, a staff writer at The Atlantic who traveled with Harris extensively for a major profile last year. I left this conversation with a very different theory of who Harris is, what her politics are and what led to the confusions of her vice presidency. Mentioned: “The Kamala Harris Problem” by Elaina Plott Calabro “Biden Plunges in Swing States in Leaked Post-Debate Poll” by Peter Hamby Smart on Crime by Kamala D. Harris, with Joan O'C. Hamilton · Book Recommendations: Southerners by Marshall Frady The Sheltering Sky by Paul Bowles The Company She Keeps by Mary McCarthy Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Elias Isquith. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Kate Sinclair and Mary Marge Locker. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Isaac Jones and Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Annie Galvin, Rollin Hu and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Carole Sabouraud.
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Southerners
Marshall Freed

The host recommends 'Southerners' by Marshall Freed for its compelling prose and insightful political reporting. The…

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The Company She Keeps
Mary McCarthy

The host mentions 'The Company She Keeps' as a significant work that reflects the struggles of a young woman navigati…

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The Sheltering Sky
Paul Bowles

The host mentions 'The Sheltering Sky' to highlight its exploration of existential themes and the dark realities face…

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Smart on Crime

The host mentions 'Smart on Crime' to highlight Kamala Harris's approach to her role as a prosecutor and how it influ…

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Southerners
Marshall Freed
Best for Readers interested in political history and compelling writingOften cited around book recommendations

An anthology of profiles and essays by Marshall Freed, a mid-century reporter during the civil rights era, known for compelling prose and a unique approach to political reporting.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Readers interested in political history and compelling writing
Key quote: He is the kind of writer who you read him and you almost become angry because you just know you will never be that good at a sentence level.
The host recommends 'Southerners' by Marshall Freed for its compelling prose and insightful political reporting. The anthology showcases the complexities of political figures during the civil rights era, emphasizing their human flaws rather than portraying them as infallible leaders.
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Best for Readers interested in feminist literature and mid-century American culture.Often cited around recommendations for books

McCarthy's debut novel about Meg Sargent, a Catholic girl navigating New York's intellectual culture and her journey through Trotskyism and psychoanalysis.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Readers interested in feminist literature and mid-century American culture.
Key quote: The third I would recommend is The Company She Keeps by Mary McCarthy.
The host mentions 'The Company She Keeps' as a significant work that reflects the struggles of a young woman navigating the intellectual culture of New York. The book's exploration of personal and political themes resonates with the host's discussion of societal issues.
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Best for Readers interested in existential literature and cultural critiqueOften cited around existential dissonance in travel

A novel about three Americans in North Africa, exploring themes of existential dissonance and the dark realities of cultural ignorance.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Readers interested in existential literature and cultural critique
Key quote: But it's about three Americans, three New Yorkers, who go to North Africa and are thinking of it as sort of just a tourist jaunt.
The host mentions 'The Sheltering Sky' to highlight its exploration of existential themes and the dark realities faced by travelers. It serves as a cautionary tale about the romanticized notions of visiting foreign cultures and the despair that can follow ignorance.
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Best for Individuals interested in political strategy and criminal justice reformOften cited around Kamala Harris's campaign strategy

She wrote a book when she was in California called Smart on Crime, which really, you know, you read it, it sounds more like a tough on crime book.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Individuals interested in political strategy and criminal justice reform
Key quote: She wrote a book when she was in California called Smart on Crime, which really, you know, you read it, it sounds more like a tough on crime book.
The host mentions 'Smart on Crime' to highlight Kamala Harris's approach to her role as a prosecutor and how it influenced her campaign. The book is referenced to illustrate the tension between her past as a prosecutor and the current political climate regarding law enforcement.
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Southerners
The Ezra Klein Show · 1:01:49
He is the kind of writer who you read him and you almost become angry because you just know you will never be that good at a sentence level.
The Company She Keeps
The Ezra Klein Show · 1:04:01
The third I would recommend is The Company She Keeps by Mary McCarthy.
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But it's about three Americans, three New Yorkers, who go to North Africa and are thinking of it as sort of just a tourist jaunt.
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Southerners
Marshall Freed

The host recommends 'Southerners' by Marshall Freed for its compelling prose and insightful political reporting. The anthology showcases the comple…

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Mentioned at 1:04:01
The Company She Keeps
Mary McCarthy

The host mentions 'The Company She Keeps' as a significant work that reflects the struggles of a young woman navigating the intellectual culture of…

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The Sheltering Sky
Paul Bowles

The host mentions 'The Sheltering Sky' to highlight its exploration of existential themes and the dark realities faced by travelers. It serves as a…

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