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The Economic Theory That Explains Why Americans Are So Mad

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The Economic Theory That Explains Why Americans Are So Mad mentions Franchise, The Golden Arches in Black America by Marcia Shadalene, A Place of Greater Safety by Hilary Mantel, Nickel and Dime by Barbara Ehrman, and Give People Money by Annie Lowry with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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However, there's a really great book that came out a few years ago called Franchise, The Golden Arches in Black America by Marcia Shadalene.

I recently read the best political book that I've ever read, which is called A Place of Greater Safety.

Nickel and Dime
Barbara Ehrman

The best book I think about it, and it's a classic, is Nickel and Dime by Barbara Ehrman.

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There’s something weird happening with the economy. On a personal level, most Americans say they’re doing pretty well right now. And according to the data, that’s true. Wages have gone up faster than inflation. Unemployment is low, the stock market is generally up so far this year, and people are buying more stuff. And yet in surveys, people keep saying the economy is bad. A recent Harris poll for The Guardian found that around half of Americans think the S. & P. 500 is down this year, and that unemployment is at a 50-year high. Fifty-six percent think we’re in a recession. There are many theories about why this gap exists. Maybe political polarization is warping how people see the economy or it’s a failure of President Biden’s messaging, or there’s just something uniquely painful about inflation. And while there’s truth in all of these, it felt like a piece of the story was missing. And for me, that missing piece was an article I read right before the pandemic. An Atlantic story from February 2020 called “The Great Affordability Crisis Breaking America.” It described how some of Americans’ biggest-ticket expenses — housing, health care, higher education and child care — which were already pricey, had been getting steadily pricier for decades. At the time, prices weren’t the big topic in the economy; the focus was more on jobs and wages. So it was easier for this trend to slip notice, like a frog boiling in water, quietly, putting more and more strain on American budgets. But today, after years of high inflation, prices are the biggest topic in the economy. And I think that explains the anger people feel: They’re noticing the price of things all the time, and getting hammered with the reality of how expensive these things have become. The author of that Atlantic piece is Annie Lowrey. She’s an economics reporter, the author of Give People Money, and also my wife. In this conversation, we discuss how the affordability crisis has collided with our post-pandemic inflationary world, the forces that shape our economic perceptions, why people keep spending as if prices aren’t a strain and what this might mean for the presidential election. Mentioned: “It Will Never Be a Good Time to Buy a House” by Annie Lowrey Book Recommendations: Franchise by Marcia Chatelain A Place of Greater Safety by Hilary Mantel Nickel and Dimed by Barbara Ehrenreich Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Rollin Hu. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Efim Shapiro and Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Annie Galvin, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones and Aman Sahota. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Sonia Herrero.
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Franchise, The Golden Arches in Black America
Marcia Shadalene

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A Place of Greater Safety
Hilary Mantel

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Nickel and Dime
Barbara Ehrman

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Give People Money
Annie Lowry

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Readers interested in economics and social impact.Readers interested in history and economicsReaders interested in economic issues and workforce dynamics.Individuals interested in economic policy and affordability issues.Parents and policymakers

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Best for Readers interested in economics and social impact.Often cited around books about inflation

It's about McDonald's and franchising, specifically about the growth of McDonald's and its role in Black communities and with Black consumers.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Readers interested in economics and social impact.
Key quote: However, there's a really great book that came out a few years ago called Franchise, The Golden Arches in Black America by Marcia Shadalene.
The host mentioned 'Franchise, The Golden Arches in Black America' as a compelling read that explores the impact of McDonald's in Black communities. This book provides valuable insights into franchising and consumer behavior, particularly in relation to economic issues.
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Best for Readers interested in history and economicsOften cited around French Revolution narrative

It is a novelization of the French Revolution. Price increases, price instability is a really important part of the French Revolution.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Readers interested in history and economics
Key quote: I recently read the best political book that I've ever read, which is called A Place of Greater Safety.
The host mentioned 'A Place of Greater Safety' as a compelling historical novel that provides an in-depth look at the French Revolution. They emphasized its relevance to understanding economic issues during that period, which parallels current discussions about inflation and consumer prices.
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Nickel and Dime
Barbara Ehrman
Best for Readers interested in economic issues and workforce dynamics.Often cited around neoliberal economic deal

It's about women in the workforce. It's about low wages, tipping, and it's just fantastic.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Readers interested in economic issues and workforce dynamics.
Key quote: The best book I think about it, and it's a classic, is Nickel and Dime by Barbara Ehrman.
The host mentions 'Nickel and Dime' as a classic book that explores the challenges faced by women in the workforce and the implications of low wages. This book is highlighted as a significant resource for understanding the broader economic issues in America.
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Best for Individuals interested in economic policy and affordability issues.Often cited around affordability crisis

Annie Lowry, welcome to the show. She's the author of the book Give People Money.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in economic policy and affordability issues.
Key quote: That 2020 Atlantic piece, which has done so much to shape my thinking, it was written by Annie Lowry.
The host mentions 'Give People Money' to highlight the insights of Annie Lowry, particularly her analysis of the affordability crisis that was building before the pandemic. This book is referenced as a significant influence on the host's understanding of economic issues related to rising costs of living.
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Best for Parents and policymakersOften cited around child care costs

Caitlin Collins did this great book looking at parenting and work in a bunch of different countries.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Parents and policymakers
Key quote: the cost of child care is capped at well under $200 a month.
The host mentioned Caitlin Collins' book to highlight the stark differences in child care affordability between the U.S. and other countries, particularly Sweden. Collins' insights underscore the financial burdens families face in the U.S. compared to more supportive systems abroad.
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Franchise, The Golden Arches in Black America
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However, there's a really great book that came out a few years ago called Franchise, The Golden Arches in Black America by Marcia Shadalene.
A Place of Greater Safety
The Ezra Klein Show · 1:32:25
I recently read the best political book that I've ever read, which is called A Place of Greater Safety.
Nickel and Dime
The Ezra Klein Show · 1:33:41
The best book I think about it, and it's a classic, is Nickel and Dime by Barbara Ehrman.
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Franchise, The Golden Arches in Black America
Marcia Shadalene

The host mentioned 'Franchise, The Golden Arches in Black America' as a compelling read that explores the impact of McDonald's in Black communities…

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A Place of Greater Safety
Hilary Mantel

The host mentioned 'A Place of Greater Safety' as a compelling historical novel that provides an in-depth look at the French Revolution. They empha…

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Nickel and Dime
Barbara Ehrman

The host mentions 'Nickel and Dime' as a classic book that explores the challenges faced by women in the workforce and the implications of low wage…

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