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The Ezra Klein ShowMay 7, 2024

Watching the Protests From Israel

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Watching the Protests From Israel mentions My Promised Land by Ari Shavit, To Save the Jewish Homeland by Hannah Arendt, Rosalind Franklin, and Parting the Waters by Taylor Branch with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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My Promised Land
Ari Shavit

I think it is the single best book on what Israel is because it is a book that is better able than any other to hold both the idealism and violence.

To Save the Jewish Homeland
Hannah Arendt

And she thought that the unanimity was very dangerous because what was needed at the founding of Israel was to take seriously the insights of the peo…

Rosalind Franklin

One is about Rosalind Franklin. And Rosalind Franklin was a scientist, happened to be a Jewish British scientist.

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Ultimately, the Gaza war protests sweeping campuses are about influencing Israeli politics. The protesters want to use economic divestment, American pressure and policy, and a broad sense of international outrage to change the decisions being made by Israeli leaders. So I wanted to know what it’s like to watch these protests from Israel. What are Israelis seeing? What do they make of them? Ari Shavit is an Israeli journalist and the author of “My Promised Land,” the best book I’ve read about Israeli identity and history. “Israelis are seeing a different war than the one that Americans see,” he tells me. “You see one war film, horror film, and we see at home another war film.” This is a conversation about trying to push divergent perspectives into relationship with each other: On the protests, on Israel, on Gaza, on Benjamin Netanyahu, on what it means to take societal trauma and fear seriously, on Jewish values, and more. Mentioned: “Building the Palestinian State with Salam Fayyad” by The Ezra Klein Show “To Save the Jewish Homeland” by Hannah Arendt Book Recommendations: Truman by David McCullough Parting the Waters by Taylor Branch Rosalind Franklin by Brenda Maddox Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Claire Gordon and Rollin Hu. Fact-checking by Kate Sinclair, Mary Marge Locker and Kristin Lin. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Efim Shapiro and Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Annie Galvin and Michelle Harris. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Lydia Polgreen, Dalit Shalom and Sonia Herrero.
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My Promised Land
Ari Shavit

The host mentions 'My Promised Land' by Ari Shavit as a crucial resource for understanding the complexities of Israel…

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To Save the Jewish Homeland
Hannah Arendt

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Rosalind Franklin

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Parting the Waters
Taylor Branch

The host mentioned 'Parting the Waters' to highlight the inspirational role of Martin Luther King and the civil right…

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Truman

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The Proclamation of Israel

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Anyone seeking to understand the complexities of Israel's history and current political climate.Individuals interested in Jewish history and contemporary Israeli politicsIndividuals interested in science, feminism, and historical figuresIndividuals interested in civil rights and social justiceIndividuals interested in leadership and historical figuresIndividuals interested in the historical and moral complexities of Zionism.

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My Promised Land
Ari Shavit
Best for Anyone seeking to understand the complexities of Israel's history and current political climate.Often cited around Israel and campus protests

“This book is recommended as the single best book on what Israel is, holding both idealism and violence, and addressing the dispossession required for its establishment.”

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Anyone seeking to understand the complexities of Israel's history and current political climate.
Key quote: “I think it is the single best book on what Israel is because it is a book that is better able than any other to hold both the idealism and violence.”
The host mentions 'My Promised Land' by Ari Shavit as a crucial resource for understanding the complexities of Israel's history and current situation. The book is highlighted for its ability to present both the idealism and violence inherent in Israel's narrative, making it essential for those trying to grasp the ongoing protests and their implications.
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To Save the Jewish Homeland
Hannah Arendt
Best for Individuals interested in Jewish history and contemporary Israeli politicsOften cited around Hannah Arendt's essay

“There's this 1948 essay by the philosopher Hannah Arendt called To Save the Jewish Homeland. And the thing she's describing, I've been thinking about this essay, which people can and should read online.”

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in Jewish history and contemporary Israeli politics
Key quote: “And she thought that the unanimity was very dangerous because what was needed at the founding of Israel was to take seriously the insights of the people who thought this could go very, very badly.”
The host references Hannah Arendt's essay 'To Save the Jewish Homeland' to highlight the complexities and dangers of unanimity in the Jewish community regarding Israel and Zionism. They emphasize the importance of acknowledging diverse perspectives to prevent negative outcomes for both Israel and the Jewish diaspora.
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Rosalind Franklin
Best for Individuals interested in science, feminism, and historical figuresOften cited around scientific heroism and feminism

“A biography about Rosalind Franklin, a Jewish British scientist who contributed dramatically to the discovery of the DNA code and faced intellectual dispossession.”

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals interested in science, feminism, and historical figures
Key quote: “One is about Rosalind Franklin. And Rosalind Franklin was a scientist, happened to be a Jewish British scientist.”
The host mentions Rosalind Franklin to highlight her significant contributions to science and her struggles as a woman in a male-dominated field. Franklin's story serves as an inspiration for both scientific and feminist heroism, making her biography a valuable read.
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Parting the Waters
Taylor Branch
Best for Individuals interested in civil rights and social justiceOften cited around internal struggle in Israel

“A book about Martin Luther King and the civil rights movement, beautifully written and comprehensive, inspiring oppressed people to fight for their rights.”

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in civil rights and social justice
Key quote: “The second book that I really have been reading in the year before October 7th, when we hold, had all this internal struggle in Israel, was Taylor branches parting the waters about Martin Luther King and the civil rights movement.”
The host mentioned 'Parting the Waters' to highlight the inspirational role of Martin Luther King and the civil rights movement in the context of current challenges faced by Israel. The book serves as a reminder of the importance of fighting for rights within a framework of universal values and peaceful struggle.
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Truman
Best for Individuals interested in leadership and historical figuresOften cited around heroes and leadership

“A book about Harry Truman, an unlikely hero who created the post-World War II order, enabling the worlds of Rosalind Franklin and Martin Luther King.”

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals interested in leadership and historical figures
Key quote: “Truman is so dear to my heart because, first of all, he was like the unlikely hero, the surprising hero.”
The host mentions 'Truman' as a significant book that highlights the importance of unlikely heroes who serve their people. The discussion emphasizes Truman's role in shaping the post-World War II order and the hope for similar leadership in contemporary times.
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The Proclamation of Israel
Best for Individuals interested in the historical and moral complexities of Zionism.Often cited around Zionism and colonialism

“David Ben-Gurion is referenced in the context of his writings in 'The Proclamation of Israel' regarding the moral dimension of their mission.”

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in the historical and moral complexities of Zionism.
Key quote: “David Ben-Gurion, in the book, The Proclamation of Israel, he writes that before all these people understood that, no, we had the right to try to throw a nuclear bomb over Germany.”
The host references 'The Proclamation of Israel' to highlight the complexities and contradictions inherent in Zionism. They discuss how the historical context and intentions behind Zionism are often misunderstood or oversimplified in contemporary discourse.
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My Promised Land
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I think it is the single best book on what Israel is because it is a book that is better able than any other to hold both the idealism and violence.
To Save the Jewish Homeland
The Ezra Klein Show · 52:13
And she thought that the unanimity was very dangerous because what was needed at the founding of Israel was to take seriously the insights of the peo…
Rosalind Franklin
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One is about Rosalind Franklin. And Rosalind Franklin was a scientist, happened to be a Jewish British scientist.
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My Promised Land
Ari Shavit

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Hannah Arendt

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