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How ‘Being Animal’ Could Help Us Be Better Humans

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How ‘Being Animal’ Could Help Us Be Better Humans mentions How to Be Animal, A New History of What It Means to Be Human by Melanie Challenger and On Extinction, How We Became Estranged from Nature by Melanie Challenger with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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I would argue that that originates in the fact that we have a fundamental struggle with being animal and with what follows from being animal.

You write that the world is now dominated by an animal that doesn't think it's an animal and the future is being imagined by an animal that doesn't t…

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One of the oldest human ideas is that we are somehow different from animals, somehow superior to them. That’s a mistake, argues the environmental philosopher Melanie Challenger. “Many of the things we most value — our relationships, the romantic sensations of attraction and love, pregnancy and childbirth, the pleasures of springtime, of eating a meal — are physical, largely unconscious and demonstrably animal,” she writes in her book “How to Be Animal: A New History of What It Means to Be Human.” The consequences of resisting our fellowship with other species, she argues, have been devastating to them and to the planet. Challenger’s arguments are fascinating in their own right, but they also have a particular resonance at this moment of tremendous technological advancement. Humans have long defined ourselves by our cognitive intelligence, yet the machines we’re building are rapidly surpassing our minds. What does it mean to be human in a world where we are no longer superior by the standards we’ve created? Have we set ourselves up for a specieswide existential crisis? And how can embracing our status as animals help us navigate this bizarre future? Book Recommendations: Love’s Work by Gillian Rose Summertime by Danielle Celermajer Lighthead by Terrance Hayes Listen to this podcast in New York Times Audio, our new iOS app for news subscribers. Download now at nytimes.com/audioapp Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. This episode was produced by Annie Galvin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris. Mixing by Jeff Geld. The show’s production team also includes Emefa Agawu, Rogé Karma and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. And special thanks to Sonia Herrero and Kristina Samulewski.
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Best for Readers interested in environmental philosophy and human-animal relationsOften cited around human relationship with animals

The book explores the relationship between humanity and its animal nature, addressing the moral implications of being a predator species.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in environmental philosophy and human-animal relations
Key quote: I would argue that that originates in the fact that we have a fundamental struggle with being animal and with what follows from being animal.
The host mentions Melanie Challenger's book to explore the complex relationship between humans and the animal world, emphasizing how this relationship influences our policies and technologies. Challenger's insights prompt a reflection on humanity's denial of its animal nature and the implications of that denial in contemporary issues.
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On Extinction, How We Became Estranged from Nature cover
Best for Readers interested in environmental philosophy and the ethics of human-animal relationships.Often cited around human relationship with nature

This book discusses the estrangement of humans from nature and reflects on the ongoing environmental crises.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in environmental philosophy and the ethics of human-animal relationships.
Key quote: You write that the world is now dominated by an animal that doesn't think it's an animal and the future is being imagined by an animal that doesn't think it's an animal.
The host mentions Melanie Challenger's book to explore the complex relationship between humans and the natural world, emphasizing our estrangement from nature. This discussion highlights the moral and psychological implications of being a predatory species in a time of environmental crises.
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How to Be Animal, A New History of What It Means to Be Human
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How to Be Animal, A New History of What It Means to Be Human
Melanie Challenger

The host mentions Melanie Challenger's book to explore the complex relationship between humans and the animal world, emphasizing how this relations…

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On Extinction, How We Became Estranged from Nature
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The host mentions Melanie Challenger's book to explore the complex relationship between humans and the natural world, emphasizing our estrangement…

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