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The Dobbs Decision Isn’t Just About Abortion. It’s About Power.

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The Dobbs Decision Isn’t Just About Abortion. It’s About Power. mentions Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl, Hope in the Dark by Rebecca Solnit, The Descent, and You Can't Be Neutral on a Moving Train by Howard Zinn with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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But for me, for the last four years, it's been kind of a lodestar to purpose.

Hope in the Dark
Rebecca Solnit

I would start with a book that I carry around everywhere with me, which is Rebecca Solnit's Hope in the Dark.

when it comes to rights, the court does not act neutrally when it leaves everything up to the states.

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On Friday, a Supreme Court majority voted to overturn Roe v. Wade. Nearly all abortions are already banned in at least nine states, home to 7.2 million women of reproductive age. And it is likely that other bans and restrictions will follow. As the court’s three liberal justices put it in their dissenting opinion, “One result of today’s decision is certain: the curtailment of women’s rights, and of their status as free and equal citizens.” But this decision doesn’t just represent the end of abortion as a constitutional right; what we’re also witnessing, before our eyes, is a legal regime change — one with striking implications for the future of the court and the country. In their majority opinion on the case, Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, the justices cast aside precedent, the court’s historical norms and evidence-based concerns about how this ruling will disrupt people’s lives. Even Chief Justice John Roberts, a fellow conservative, argued in a concurring opinion that the decision went too far, writing, “The court’s opinion is thoughtful and thorough, but those virtues cannot compensate for the fact that its dramatic and consequential ruling is unnecessary to decide the case before us.” The Dobbs ruling, in other words, isn’t just about abortion; it’s a conservative court majority flexing its newly unrestrained power. Dahlia Lithwick is a reporter covering the Supreme Court for Slate, the host of the podcast “Amicus” and someone I turn to whenever I need to understand the court. We discuss what Roe did and what Dobbs changes; why the rights to abortion, contraception and same-sex marriage have a much firmer constitutional basis than conservatives argue; how the majority opinion implicitly threatens those latter two rights, even while claiming to uphold them; why the most revealing opinion in the case is Roberts’s scathing concurrence; why the majority’s absolute disregard for precedent is so terrifying for defenders of the court; the way Justice Samuel Alito’s constitutional originalism freezes past injustices into present law; what the current composition of the court means for the future of liberal governance in America; and more. Mentioned: “Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization” “There’s a Way to Outmaneuver the Supreme Court, and Maine Has Found It” by Aaron Tang Book recommendations: Hope in the Dark by Rebecca Solnit Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor E. Frankl You Can’t Be Neutral on a Moving Train by Howard Zinn We’re hiring a researcher! You can apply here or by visiting nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/News Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. “The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Annie Galvin and Rogé Karma; fact-checking by Michelle Harris, Rollin Hu, Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair; mixing and original music by Isaac Jones; additional engineering by Pat McCusker; audience strategy by Shannon Busta. Our executive producer is Irene Noguchi. Special thanks to Kristin Lin and Kristina Samulewski.
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Viktor Frankl

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The Descent

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Best for Individuals seeking motivation and purpose in difficult timesOften cited around finding purpose in adversity

A book about surviving the Holocaust that serves as a lodestar to purpose, emphasizing the importance of having purpose.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals seeking motivation and purpose in difficult times
Key quote: But for me, for the last four years, it's been kind of a lodestar to purpose.
The host mentions 'Man's Search for Meaning' by Viktor Frankl as a significant book that has served as a guiding principle for finding purpose during challenging times. The host emphasizes that having a sense of purpose can help individuals navigate through difficult experiences.
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Best for Individuals feeling anxious about climate change and societal issues.Often cited around hope during challenging times

A profound meditation on hope and why it matters, given to the speaker's son to discuss climate change.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals feeling anxious about climate change and societal issues.
Key quote: I would start with a book that I carry around everywhere with me, which is Rebecca Solnit's Hope in the Dark.
The host mentions 'Hope in the Dark' as a crucial resource for those feeling overwhelmed by the state of the world, particularly in relation to climate change. It serves as a profound meditation on hope and the importance of grasping it amidst adversity.
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Best for Individuals interested in legal analysis and abortion rightsOften cited around Supreme Court and abortion

The Descent is a genuinely searing and remarkable piece of work. It discusses the Supreme Court's neutrality on abortion and the implications of that stance.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals interested in legal analysis and abortion rights
Key quote: when it comes to rights, the court does not act neutrally when it leaves everything up to the states.
The host mentions 'The Descent' to highlight its critical perspective on the Supreme Court's neutrality regarding abortion rights. They emphasize the book's argument that true neutrality does not exist when fundamental rights are at stake.
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Best for Individuals seeking motivation and perspective on activism and hope.Often cited around hope in difficult times

A meditation on hope, discussing the importance of emphasizing compassion and courage in human history.

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For: Individuals seeking motivation and perspective on activism and hope.
Key quote: To be hopeful in bad times is not just foolishly romantic.
The host mentions Howard Zinn's book to emphasize the importance of hope amidst adversity. Zinn's work serves as a reminder that human history is filled with both cruelty and compassion, which can inspire action in challenging times.
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Man's Search for Meaning
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But for me, for the last four years, it's been kind of a lodestar to purpose.
Hope in the Dark
The Ezra Klein Show · 1:13:16
I would start with a book that I carry around everywhere with me, which is Rebecca Solnit's Hope in the Dark.
The Descent
The Ezra Klein Show · 48:58
when it comes to rights, the court does not act neutrally when it leaves everything up to the states.
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Man's Search for Meaning
Viktor Frankl

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Hope in the Dark
Rebecca Solnit

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The Descent

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