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Two Years Later, We Still Don’t Understand Long Covid. Why?

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I don't think there's anything you can read that is more inspiring than that one.

It's a beautifully written book.

In Shock
Dr. Rana Adish

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Depending on the data you look at, between 10 and 40 percent of people who get Covid will still have symptoms months later. For some, those symptoms will be modest. A cough, some fatigue. For others, they’ll be life-altering: Debilitating brain fog. Exhaustion. Cardiovascular problems. Blood clotting. This is what we call long Covid. It’s one term for a vast range of experiences, symptoms, outcomes. It’s one term that may be hiding a vast range of maladies and causes. So what do we actually know about long Covid? What don’t we know? And why don’t we know more than we do? Dr. Lekshmi Santhosh is an assistant professor at UCSF Medical Center, and the founder and medical director of UCSF’s long Covid and post-ICU clinic. Her clinic opened in May 2020 and was one of the first to focus on treating long Covid patients specifically. We discuss the wildly broad range of symptoms that can qualify as long Covid; the confusing overlaps between Covid symptoms and other diseases; whether age, race, sex and pre-existing conditions affect a person’s chances of contracting long Covid; why it’s so difficult to answer a seemingly simple question like, “How many people have gotten long Covid?”; what to make of a recent study that seemingly undermines the biological existence of long Covid; how worried we should be about correlations between Covid and medical disasters like heart attacks, strokes and abnormal blood clotting; and more. Mentioned: “Post–COVID Conditions Among Adult COVID-19 Survivors Aged 18–64 and ≥65 Years — United States, March 2020–November 2021” by Lara Bull-Otterson, Sarah Baca1, Sharon Saydah, Tegan K. Boehmer, Stacey Adjei, Simone Gray and Aaron M. Harris “Long COVID after breakthrough SARS-CoV-2 infection” by Ziyad Al-Aly, Benjamin Bowe and Yan Xie “A Longitudinal Study of COVID-19 Sequelae and Immunity: Baseline Findings” by Michael C. Sneller, C. Jason Liang, Adriana R. Marques, et al. “Positive Epstein–Barr virus detection in coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) patients” by Ting Chen, Jiayi Song, Hongli Liu, Hongmei Zheng and Changzheng Chen “Risk factors and disease profile of post-vaccination SARS-CoV-2 infection in UK users of the COVID Symptom Study app” by Michela Antonelli, Rose S. Penfold, Jordi Merino, Carole H. Sudre, Erika Molteni, Sarah Berry, et al. “Understanding and Improving Recovery From COVID-19” by Aluko A. Hope “Markers of Immune Activation and Inflammation in Individuals With Postacute Sequelae of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 Infection” by Michael J. Peluso, Scott Lu, Alex F. Tang, Matthew S. Durstenfeld, et al. Book Recommendations: In Shock by Dr. Rana Awdish Every Deep-Drawn Breath by Wes Ely Mountains Beyond Mountains by Tracy Kidder We're hiring a researcher! You can apply here or by visiting nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/News Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. “The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld and Rogé Karma; fact-checking by Haylee Millikan and Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld; audience strategy by Shannon Busta. Our executive producer is Irene Noguchi. Special thanks to Kristin Lin, Kristina Samulewski, Dr. Ziyad Al-Aly and Lauren Nichols.
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Best for Doctors and healthcare professionalsOften cited around global health impacts

That book has just really inspired a whole generation of doctors to serve and to always think about the global health impacts of what we're doing.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Doctors and healthcare professionals
Key quote: I don't think there's anything you can read that is more inspiring than that one.
The host mentions 'Mountains Beyond Mountains' to highlight its inspirational role in shaping the values of a generation of doctors. It emphasizes the importance of serving global health needs and striving for justice in healthcare.
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Best for patients and families of ICU patients or those with long COVIDOften cited around long COVID insights

In this book, Dr. Wes Ely talks about his whole personal journey and the journey of research in the field, advocating for people with long COVID.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: patients and families of ICU patients or those with long COVID
Key quote: It's a beautifully written book.
The host mentions 'Every Deep Drawn Breath' as a significant resource for understanding the experiences of patients in the ICU and those suffering from long COVID. The book provides valuable insights and resources for patients and their families, making it a crucial read for those affected by these conditions.
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In Shock
Dr. Rana Adish
Best for medical professionals and advocates for chronic illnessOften cited around patient advocacy and chronic illness

It really talks about Dr. Adish's journey on both sides of the drape, being both a patient and a physician and what she has learned from that experience.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: medical professionals and advocates for chronic illness
Key quote: One is called In Shock by Dr. Rana Adish. It really talks about Dr. Adish's journey on both sides of the drape, being both a patient and a physician and what she has learned from that experience and her lessons to all of us.
The host mentions 'In Shock' to highlight Dr. Rana Adish's unique perspective as both a patient and a physician, emphasizing the importance of understanding patient experiences. The book serves as a powerful reminder of the need for humility and empathy in the medical community, particularly regarding chronic illnesses and long COVID.
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I don't think there's anything you can read that is more inspiring than that one.
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It's a beautifully written book.
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Mountains Beyond Mountains
Dr. Paul Farmer

The host mentions 'Mountains Beyond Mountains' to highlight its inspirational role in shaping the values of a generation of doctors. It emphasizes…

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Every Deep Drawn Breath
Dr. Rana Adish

The host mentions 'Every Deep Drawn Breath' as a significant resource for understanding the experiences of patients in the ICU and those suffering…

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In Shock
Dr. Rana Adish

The host mentions 'In Shock' to highlight Dr. Rana Adish's unique perspective as both a patient and a physician, emphasizing the importance of unde…

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