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The Most Thorough Case Against Crypto I've Heard

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The Most Thorough Case Against Crypto I've Heard mentions The Power Broker by Robert Caro, The Tombs of Atuan by Ursula K. Le Guin, The Gift by Lewis Hyde, and Web3 is going great by Molly White with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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The Power Broker
Robert Caro

it's Pulitzer Prize winning biography of Robert Moses. Who? Is the guy who destroyed New York City.

The Tombs of Atuan
Ursula K. Le Guin

It's her second book in the Earth Sea Cycle. Heartbreaking little story about a girl who realizes that she is the false prophet of a dead God, but ve…

The Gift
Lewis Hyde

there's this very famous beloved book by Lewis Hyde, the gift about doing art as a kind of gifting economy as an alternative to the logic of capitali…

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The hype around cryptocurrencies has reached a fever pitch. There are Super Bowl ads for crypto companies featuring celebrities like Matt Damon and Larry David. The Staples Center in Los Angeles is now the Crypto.com Arena. And behind that hype is a distinct vision: a more decentralized economy where individuals have more autonomy over their finances, a grass-roots internet free of the not-so-invisible hand of Big Tech, and a cultural ecosystem where artists and musicians can fairly monetize their work. But what if that vision is deeply flawed? What if the technology undergirding cryptocurrencies isn’t what it’s cracked up to be? Or what if the technology does work, yet the world it creates isn’t a decentralized utopia but a hyper-financialized dystopia? Dan Olson is the creator of a two-hour-YouTube video, “Line Goes Up,” that has now been viewed nearly seven million times. “Line Goes Up” is the single most comprehensive critique of crypto that I’ve ever heard. And that’s because Olson isn’t just focused on cryptocurrencies as a technology or an asset class, but on the crypto universe as a distinct culture underpinned by a powerful ideology. It’s easy to think about the lingo, the acronyms and the myths associated with the crypto world as incidental to the value of cryptocurrencies and NFTs as assets. But for Olson, the culture and the currency are inextricably linked. And once you’ve made that connection, suddenly a lot of the problems, warning signs and potential dangers of crypto become visible in a new way. Mentioned: “A Crypto Optimist Meets a Crypto Skeptic” from “The Ezra Klein Show” “How NFTs Create Value” by Steve Kaczynski and Scott Duke Kominers You Are Not a Gadget by Jaron Lanier “Web3 Is Going Just Great” by Molly White The Gift by Lewis Hyde Book recommendations: The Power Broker by Robert A. Caro The Tombs of Atuan by Ursula K. Le Guin Persuasive Games by Ian Bogost Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. “The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld and Rogé Karma; fact-checking by Michelle Harris, Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld and Isaac Jones; audience strategy by Shannon Busta. Our executive producer is Irene Noguchi. Special thanks to Kristin Lin and Kristina Samulewski.
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The Power Broker
Robert Caro

The host mentions 'The Power Broker' as a critical exploration of the intersection of power, politics, and infrastruc…

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The Tombs of Atuan
Ursula K. Le Guin

The host mentions 'The Tombs of Atuan' as a significant work within the Earth Sea Cycle, highlighting its emotional d…

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The Gift
Lewis Hyde

The host mentions 'The Gift' by Lewis Hyde to explore the concept of art as a gifting economy, contrasting it with th…

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Web3 is going great
Molly White

The host discusses the privacy implications of using popular blockchain technologies like Ethereum and how they expos…

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How NFTs Create Value
Steve Kaczynski and Scott Duke Commoners

The host references the book to highlight the claims made about NFTs and their potential for creating value. However,…

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Persuasive Games
Ian Bogost

The host briefly mentions 'Persuasive Games' as part of a list of three recommended books. It is noted for its explor…

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  • Referenced books include The Power Broker by Robert Caro and The Tombs of Atuan by Ursula K. Le Guin.
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The Power Broker
Robert Caro
Best for Readers interested in politics, power dynamics, and urban development.Often cited around power and infrastructure

Pulitzer Prize winning biography of Robert Moses, critiquing the intersection of structure, infrastructure, culture, power, and politics.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Readers interested in politics, power dynamics, and urban development.
Key quote: it's Pulitzer Prize winning biography of Robert Moses. Who? Is the guy who destroyed New York City.
The host mentions 'The Power Broker' as a critical exploration of the intersection of power, politics, and infrastructure, particularly in the context of societal impact. They emphasize its relevance in understanding how physical spaces can be manipulated to exert control over communities.
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The Tombs of Atuan
Ursula K. Le Guin
Best for Readers interested in emotional and philosophical fictionOften cited around fiction recommendation

A heartbreaking story about a girl who realizes she is the false prophet of a dead God, emotionally applicable.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Readers interested in emotional and philosophical fiction
Key quote: It's her second book in the Earth Sea Cycle. Heartbreaking little story about a girl who realizes that she is the false prophet of a dead God, but very emotionally applicable thing.
The host mentions 'The Tombs of Atuan' as a significant work within the Earth Sea Cycle, highlighting its emotional depth. The story's themes resonate with the complexities of belief and identity, making it relevant to the current discussions about societal structures.
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The Gift
Lewis Hyde
Best for Artists and creators navigating commercializationOften cited around art and gifting economy

A famous beloved book discussing art as a gifting economy versus capitalism, highlighting the tension between artistic impulse and economic necessity.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Artists and creators navigating commercialization
Key quote: there's this very famous beloved book by Lewis Hyde, the gift about doing art as a kind of gifting economy as an alternative to the logic of capitalism that art is not supposed to be.
The host mentions 'The Gift' by Lewis Hyde to explore the concept of art as a gifting economy, contrasting it with the commercialization of creativity in the digital age. This discussion highlights the tension between artistic integrity and the need for financial sustainability in a capitalist framework.
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Best for Individuals interested in cryptocurrency and privacy issuesOften cited around privacy in cryptocurrency

Molly White's blog post highlights privacy concerns in the crypto ecosystem, illustrating how economic transactions can expose personal information.

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Sentiment: Critical Analysis
For: Individuals interested in cryptocurrency and privacy issues
Key quote: That interaction has now given this rando that you have met once the thing that they need to dig into all of your recent economic transactions.
The host discusses the privacy implications of using popular blockchain technologies like Ethereum and how they expose users' financial activities. They reference Molly White's book to highlight the risks associated with economic transactions in a transparent crypto environment.
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How NFTs Create Value
Steve Kaczynski and Scott Duke Commoners
Best for Individuals interested in the practical implications of NFTs and digital ownership.Often cited around value creation in NFTs

The piece discusses how NFTs create value, providing a quick explanation of their significance and functionality.

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Sentiment: Critical Analysis
For: Individuals interested in the practical implications of NFTs and digital ownership.
Key quote: what makes NFTs special is that it's not only something you can own, but quote, NFTs can function like membership cards or tickets, providing access to events, exclusive merchandise and special discounts, as well as serving as digital keys to online.
The host references the book to highlight the claims made about NFTs and their potential for creating value. However, they express skepticism about whether these claims represent genuine innovations or simply rehash existing concepts like access and identity management.
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Best for Individuals interested in rhetoric and media studiesOften cited around recommendations for books

A book about rhetoric and interactive media.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Individuals interested in rhetoric and media studies
Key quote: And third one, Persuasive Games by Ian Bogost, which is about rhetoric and interactive media.
The host briefly mentions 'Persuasive Games' as part of a list of three recommended books. It is noted for its exploration of rhetoric and interactive media, suggesting its relevance in discussions about technology and society.
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Mentioned at 1:22:29
The Power Broker
Robert Caro

The host mentions 'The Power Broker' as a critical exploration of the intersection of power, politics, and infrastructure, particularly in the cont…

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The Tombs of Atuan
Ursula K. Le Guin

The host mentions 'The Tombs of Atuan' as a significant work within the Earth Sea Cycle, highlighting its emotional depth. The story's themes reson…

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Mentioned at 13:24
The Gift
Lewis Hyde

The host mentions 'The Gift' by Lewis Hyde to explore the concept of art as a gifting economy, contrasting it with the commercialization of creativ…

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Squid Game

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The discussion revolves around the Squid Game scam, which is based on the popular Netflix series 'Squid Game'.