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It's Not Your Fault You Can't Pay Attention. Here's Why.

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It's Not Your Fault You Can't Pay Attention. Here's Why. mentions The Anatomy of a Moment by Javier Sircas, Stolen Focus by Johan Hari, The Apology by V (Eve Ensler), and Visitors by Anita Bruckner with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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I think it really is a masterpiece.

Stolen Focus
Johan Hari

It's an opportunity to pay attention to attention.

The Apology
V (Eve Ensler)

I really think if everyone in the United States could read the book, The Apology, it would ennoble our spirits and we would begin to find some way to…

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“The sensation of being alive in the early 21st century consisted of the sense that our ability to pay attention — to focus — was cracking and breaking,” writes Johann Hari in his new book, “Stolen Focus.” Later he says, “It felt like our civilization had been covered with itching powder and we spent our time twitching and twerking our minds, unable to simply give attention to things that matter.” Same. Attention is the most precious resource we have — it’s the window through which we experience our lives. And for many of us, that window is fogging. The knee-jerk response is to blame ourselves. If our attention is waning, it’s because we’re too distractible. But if there’s a single thesis of “Stolen Focus,” it’s that we have a lot less control over our attention than we like to believe — and not just because the apps on our smartphones are cunningly designed. The book explores 12 factors that Hari believes are harming our ability to pay attention. And in it, there’s a clear distinction between what I’ve come to think of as the “demand side” and the “supply side” of attention. The demand side is the story we’re more familiar with: Entire economies and technologies are built around capturing, manipulating and directing our attention. But the supply side is just as important: A whole host of social conditions, from the food we eat to the amount we sleep to the chemicals in our air and the money in our bank accounts, determine the reservoirs of attention we have to draw on in the first place. For Hari, that means that the state of our attention isn’t merely the product of individual failing or corporate manipulation — it’s an outgrowth of some of the most fundamental aspects of our society, our culture and our economy. And as a result it can’t be fixed by a few tweaks at the margins. To do that requires a sustained, rather radical, political project. As you’ll hear in the conversation, I don’t agree wholly with Hari’s argument. But I think it’s a much needed push to look at the most fundamental of human facilities through a new lens. Life is the sum total of what we pay attention to. What forces are in control of our attention — and how we get it back — is a defining question of our age. Mentioned: The Ezra Klein Show is hiring a managing producer. Learn more here. Ezra’s conversation with Nadine Burke Harris Book Recommendations; The Anatomy of a Moment by Javier Cercas Visitors by Anita Brookner The Apology by V (formerly Eve Ensler) Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. “The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld and Rogé Karma; fact-checking by Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld; audience strategy by Shannon Busta. Our executive producer is Irene Noguchi. Special thanks to Kristin Lin.
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The Anatomy of a Moment
Javier Sircas

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Stolen Focus
Johan Hari

The host mentions 'Stolen Focus' by Johan Hari to emphasize the societal influences on our ability to pay attention.…

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The Apology
V (Eve Ensler)

The host mentions 'The Apology' by V to highlight the profound impact of personal trauma and the need for healing thr…

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Visitors
Anita Bruckner

The host mentions 'Visitors' by Anita Bruckner to highlight the significance of deep observation in seemingly mundane…

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Willpower
Roy Baumeister

The host discusses the complexities of attention and how it is influenced by various factors, including technology an…

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War and Peace
Leo Tolstoy

The host discusses the importance of mind wandering as a crucial form of attention, contrasting it with the modern te…

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Lost Connections
Johan Hari

The host discusses the importance of attention in education and how societal pressures manipulate it. He references J…

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Chasing the Scream
Johan Hari

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Best for Anyone interested in democracy and historyOften cited around defending democracy

A novel about a moment in 1981 when gunmen stormed the Spanish Senate, and three senators refused to get down, confronting the gunmen in different ways.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Anyone interested in democracy and history
Key quote: I think it really is a masterpiece.
The host mentions 'The Anatomy of a Moment' to highlight its exploration of a pivotal moment in Spanish history that resonates with contemporary discussions on democracy. The book illustrates the courage of individuals who stood up against tyranny, making it relevant for anyone concerned about the defense of democratic values today.
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Stolen Focus
Johan Hari
Best for Individuals interested in psychology and societal influences on behavior.Often cited around importance of attention

Hari's work has always been interesting to me. In his previous books, he's developed a little subgenre taking conditions and afflictions that we individualize and arguing for their social roots. Stolen Focus does it for attention.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in psychology and societal influences on behavior.
Key quote: It's an opportunity to pay attention to attention.
The host mentions 'Stolen Focus' by Johan Hari to emphasize the societal influences on our ability to pay attention. He believes that Hari's perspective offers a necessary reframe on how we understand attention in the context of modern distractions.
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The Apology
V (Eve Ensler)
Best for Individuals seeking personal growth and societal healingOften cited around importance of empathy

A powerful book where V writes the apology she wished her father had given her after years of abuse, showcasing humanity and empathy.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals seeking personal growth and societal healing
Key quote: I really think if everyone in the United States could read the book, The Apology, it would ennoble our spirits and we would begin to find some way to listen to each other.
The host mentions 'The Apology' by V to highlight the profound impact of personal trauma and the need for healing through empathy. They believe that reading this book could inspire a spirit of understanding and connection in society, particularly in the United States.
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Visitors
Anita Bruckner
Best for Readers interested in deep literary exploration and character studies.Often cited around importance of exploration

A story about a young gay man staying with an old woman, infused with close observation and transformative insights.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Readers interested in deep literary exploration and character studies.
Key quote: It is, I mean, transformative and incredible.
The host mentions 'Visitors' by Anita Bruckner to highlight the significance of deep observation in seemingly mundane lives. He emphasizes that despite its simple premise, the book is transformative and showcases the need for focused reading.
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Willpower
Roy Baumeister
Best for Individuals interested in psychology and attention managementOften cited around challenges of attention

Professor Roy Baumeister, the leading expert in the world on willpower, wrote a book called Willpower. He discussed his own struggles with attention during an interview.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in psychology and attention management
Key quote: Willpower is part of the solution, but to be frank, a very small part of the solution.
The host discusses the complexities of attention and how it is influenced by various factors, including technology and environment. They reference the book 'Willpower' to highlight insights from Professor Roy Baumeister on the limitations of willpower in addressing attention issues.
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War and Peace
Leo Tolstoy
Best for Readers interested in attention and cognitive processesOften cited around mind wandering and attention

You're going to read war and peace. You're going to read Dostoyevsky.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in attention and cognitive processes
Key quote: I thought, right, you've left aside all these distractions. You've come to deeply focus. That's why you're here. Okay. You're going to read war and peace.
The host discusses the importance of mind wandering as a crucial form of attention, contrasting it with the modern tendency to toggle between tasks. They mention 'War and Peace' as part of their personal journey to regain focus and explore deeper forms of thinking.
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Best for Individuals interested in psychology and societal influences on mental healthOften cited around attention and education

Lost Connections did it for depression and loneliness.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in psychology and societal influences on mental health
Key quote: Chasing the Scream did this for drug addiction. Lost Connections did it for depression and loneliness.
The host discusses the importance of attention in education and how societal pressures manipulate it. He references Johan Hari's book 'Lost Connections' to highlight the social roots of depression and loneliness, paralleling it with the theme of attention in his latest work.
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Best for Readers interested in the social roots of personal issuesOften cited around attention and education

Chasing the Scream did this for drug addiction.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in the social roots of personal issues
Key quote: Chasing the Scream did this for drug addiction.
The host mentions 'Chasing the Scream' to highlight Johan Hari's exploration of societal issues related to drug addiction, which parallels his current discussion on attention. This book serves as a foundation for understanding how individual struggles are often rooted in broader social contexts.
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Best for Parents and individuals interested in sleep healthOften cited around sleep loss epidemic

Because I just heard an episode of the podcast Maintenance Phase about the so-called sleep loss epidemic.

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Sentiment: Critical Analysis
For: Parents and individuals interested in sleep health
Key quote: Can I ask if you're sure about this? Because I just heard an episode of the podcast Maintenance Phase about the so-called sleep loss epidemic.
The host references the podcast 'Maintenance Phase' to discuss the complexities of the sleep loss epidemic. They highlight the historical data and modern factors contributing to reduced sleep, emphasizing the importance of understanding these issues.
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It's an opportunity to pay attention to attention.
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The Anatomy of a Moment
Javier Sircas

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Stolen Focus
Johan Hari

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The Apology
V (Eve Ensler)

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