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What the Heck Is Going on With the U.S. Economy?

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What the Heck Is Going on With the U.S. Economy? mentions The Myth of the Rational Voter by Brian Kaplan, The Weirdest People in the World by Joe Heinrich, and Who We Are and How We Got Here by David Reich with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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The first thing I read in this was a long time ago, and I've read it a couple of times since, which is Brian Kaplan's The Myth of the Rational Voter,…

the most recent version of it I read was a colleague here at Harvard, Joe Heinrich's book called The Weirdest People in the World, that tries to unde…

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Should we be celebrating a Biden boom? Lamenting inflation and its consequences? Both? We know how to talk about booms, like the ’90s. We know how to talk about busts, like after the financial crisis. We know how to talk about stagnation. What we don’t know how to talk about is contradictory extremes coexisting together. But that’s the economy we have right now. And a lot rides on figuring out how to balance those extremes. Because if we solve inflation while killing the labor market, we’ll have blown a hole in our foot to save our hand. And so I wanted to talk today to Jason Furman, an economist at Harvard and the chair of Barack Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers from 2013 to 2017. What I appreciate about Jason is he doesn’t pretend the economy is only one thing or there’s only one lens for looking at it. He’s an unusually multimodeled thinker. We discuss whether families and workers are making it out ahead given the dual realities of rising wages and rising prices, why so many economists and forecasters got this economy wrong, to what extent the Biden stimulus is responsible for both the booming economy and spiking inflation, whether the economic lessons of the financial crisis were overlearned, why Furman thinks supply-chain issues are “overrated” as a cause of inflation, what the Great Resignation misses, how the Biden administration should restructure its Build Back Better bill, and more. Book Recommendations: The Myth of the Rational Voter by Bryan Caplan The Weirdest People in the World by Joseph Henrich Who We Are and How We Got Here by David Reich Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. “The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld and Rogé Karma; fact-checking by Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld; audience strategy by Shannon Busta. Our executive producer is Irene Noguchi. Special thanks to Kristin Lin.
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David Reich

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Brian Kaplan's The Myth of the Rational Voter takes apart the idea that everyone's rational and discusses the implications for our political system.

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For: Individuals interested in psychology's impact on political systems
Key quote: The first thing I read in this was a long time ago, and I've read it a couple of times since, which is Brian Kaplan's The Myth of the Rational Voter, where he takes apart this idea that everyone's rational and talks about the implications for our political system.
The host mentions 'The Myth of the Rational Voter' to highlight how psychological factors influence political behavior, challenging the notion that voters are always rational. This book has significantly shaped the host's understanding of the intersection between psychology and politics.
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Joe Heinrich's book, The Weirdest People in the World, tries to understand why people in the West are quite different.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals interested in psychology, sociology, and political science.
Key quote: the most recent version of it I read was a colleague here at Harvard, Joe Heinrich's book called The Weirdest People in the World, that tries to understand why people in the West really are quite different.
The host mentions 'The Weirdest People in the World' to highlight how Western psychology differs from a broader understanding of humanity. This book provides insights into the limitations of traditional psychology experiments that often focus on a narrow demographic.
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David Reich's Who We Are and How We Got Here uses ancient DNA to explore humanity's past and our understanding of it.

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For: Readers interested in anthropology and human history
Key quote: Finally, we're trying to peer into the future.
The host mentions 'Who We Are and How We Got Here' to highlight its extraordinary insights into humanity's history through ancient DNA. This book provides a fascinating perspective on our origins that the host believes is essential for understanding contemporary issues.
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The Myth of the Rational Voter
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The first thing I read in this was a long time ago, and I've read it a couple of times since, which is Brian Kaplan's The Myth of the Rational Voter,…
The Weirdest People in the World
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the most recent version of it I read was a colleague here at Harvard, Joe Heinrich's book called The Weirdest People in the World, that tries to unde…
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The Myth of the Rational Voter
Brian Kaplan

The host mentions 'The Myth of the Rational Voter' to highlight how psychological factors influence political behavior, challenging the notion that…

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The Weirdest People in the World
Joe Heinrich

The host mentions 'The Weirdest People in the World' to highlight how Western psychology differs from a broader understanding of humanity. This boo…

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Who We Are and How We Got Here
David Reich

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