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The Ezra Klein ShowDec 7, 2021

Families Are Drowning in Care Costs. Here’s How To Change That.

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Notable books mentioned: The Age of Dignity by Ai-jen Poo, The Sum of Us, Cast by Isabel Wilkerson, Being Mortal by Atul Gawande

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The Age of Dignity
Ai-jen Poo

The host mentions 'The Age of Dignity' to highlight Ai-jen Poo's advocacy for changing societal support for caregiving. The book is presented as a…

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The Sum of Us

The host mentions 'The Sum of Us' to highlight the crisis of care in the U.S. and how it is often viewed as a private cost rather than a public goo…

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Isabel Wilkerson

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Families Are Drowning in Care Costs. Here’s How To Change That. mentions The Age of Dignity by Ai-jen Poo, The Sum of Us, Cast by Isabel Wilkerson, and Being Mortal by Atul Gawande with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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Every day in the United States, more than 10,000 babies are born and 10,000 people turn 65. But America doesn’t have anything close to a comprehensive family policy. That means no guaranteed paid family leave, no universal child care or preschool and a patchwork system of elder and disability care that leaves millions without support. American families are drowning as a result. In some states, the average cost of a full-time child-care program is nearing $20,000 a year; the median yearly cost of a private room in a nursing home is over $100,000 — a figure that well exceeds the median household income in the United States. And workers in the child care and eldercare industries routinely make poverty wages. Ai-jen Poo is a co-founder and the executive director of the National Domestic Workers Alliance, a MacArthur “genius” grant winner and the author of “The Age of Dignity: Preparing for the Elder Boom in a Changing America.” Fixing America’s systems of care has been Poo’s life’s work. But for her, the current state of America’s care infrastructure is more than a looming crisis; it’s a huge opportunity — one that, if solved, could supercharge the American economy, ensure dignified care across our life spans and revolutionize the future of work. And Poo’s movement may be on the brink of a major victory: If signed into law, the Build Back Better Act would be the most transformative investment in children and caregiving in generations. This conversation is about how caring for the people we love became so atrociously unaffordable and unmanageable — and what it would take to change that. It also explores why Poo thinks we should view child care and eldercare as essential infrastructure for running our economy and society, the racialized history of why the United States lags behind most of its peers in developing comprehensive family policy, the cultural narratives that have caused America to undervalue care work for so long, how solving the care crisis would be a policy “win-win-win” for everyone, Poo’s view that “care is a problem the market cannot solve” and why Poo believes that the future of work is inextricably linked to the future of care. Mentioned: “Prep School for Poor Kids: The Long-Run Impacts of Head Start on Human Capital and Economic Self-Sufficiency” by Martha J. Bailey et al. Book recommendations: The Sum of Us by Heather McGhee Caste by Isabel Wilkerson Being Mortal by Atul Gawande This episode is guest-hosted by Heather McGhee, a public policy expert whose work focuses on the intersection of race, inequality, and social policy. She is the chairman of the board of directors of the racial justice organization Color of Change, the former president of the think tank Demos and author of “The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together” and. You can follow her on Twitter @HMcGhee. (Learn more about the other guest hosts during Ezra’s parental leave here.) Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of "The Ezra Klein Show" at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. “The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld and Rogé Karma; fact-checking by Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld; audience strategy by Shannon Busta. Special thanks to Kristin Lin and Alison Bruzek.
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Individuals interested in caregiving policies and social justiceIndividuals interested in social issues and caregivingIndividuals interested in social justice and care workAnyone interested in caregiving and aging issues

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The Age of Dignity cover
Best for Individuals interested in caregiving policies and social justiceOften cited around caregiving and family policy

She's a MacArthur Genius Grant winner, an author of the book The Age of Dignity. She's also the nation's leading advocate for fundamentally changing the way our society supports caregiving.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals interested in caregiving policies and social justice
Key quote: I've learned so much from Ai-jen, and I hope you will too.
The host mentions 'The Age of Dignity' to highlight Ai-jen Poo's advocacy for changing societal support for caregiving. The book is presented as a crucial resource for understanding the care crisis and the need for comprehensive family policies in America.
ASIN: B00WL4SGRC
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Best for Individuals interested in social issues and caregivingOften cited around crisis of care

There's this really incredible groundbreaking book called The Sum of Us. That I really highly recommend. I can't say enough about it.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in social issues and caregiving
Key quote: When I was traveling the country for what would become my book, The Sum of Us, I spent a lot of time talking to people about aspects of their lives that they're experiencing as increasingly unaffordable private costs when other societies position these aspects more as ultimately public goods.
The host mentions 'The Sum of Us' to highlight the crisis of care in the U.S. and how it is often viewed as a private cost rather than a public good. This perspective is crucial in understanding the broader implications of caregiving responsibilities, especially for women.
ASIN: 0525509585
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Cast
Isabel Wilkerson
Best for Individuals interested in social justice and care workOften cited around importance of care work

And then Isabel Wilkerson's book, Cast.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Individuals interested in social justice and care work
Key quote: There's this really incredible groundbreaking book called The Sum of Us. That I really highly recommend. I can't say enough about it. That's enough. And then Isabel Wilkerson's book, Cast.
The host mentioned 'Cast' by Isabel Wilkerson as part of a broader discussion on the importance of care work and the systemic issues surrounding it. This reference highlights the need for understanding the historical context of social structures that impact care workers, particularly women of color.
ASIN: 0593230272
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Being Mortal
Atul Gawande
Best for Anyone interested in caregiving and aging issuesOften cited around importance of caregiving

a book about aging and dying that I found to be really profound is Atul Gawande's book, Being Mortal. I think everyone should read that.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Anyone interested in caregiving and aging issues
Key quote: a book about aging and dying that I found to be really profound is Atul Gawande's book, Being Mortal.
The host mentions 'Being Mortal' by Atul Gawande as a profound book that addresses aging and dying, which ties into the broader discussion about the care economy and the need for better support systems. This recommendation emphasizes the importance of understanding the challenges faced in caregiving and long-term care.
ASIN: 1250076226
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