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Are We Witnessing the Mainstreaming of White Power in America?

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Notable books mentioned: Messengers of the Right, Conservative Media, and the Transformation of American Politics by Nicole Hammer, Bring the War Home, the White Power Movement and Paramilitary America by Kathleen Ballou, A Field Guide to White Supremacy, The Turner Diaries

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Messengers of the Right, Conservative Media, and the Transformation of American Politics
Nicole Hammer

Nicole Hammer's book provides valuable insights into the transformation of American politics through conservative media. The host emphasizes the im…

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Bring the War Home, the White Power Movement and Paramilitary America
Kathleen Ballou

The host mentions Kathleen Ballou's book to highlight how fringe right-wing ideologies have infiltrated mainstream politics. Ballou's research prov…

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A Field Guide to White Supremacy

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Are We Witnessing the Mainstreaming of White Power in America? mentions Messengers of the Right, Conservative Media, and the Transformation of American Politics by Nicole Hammer, Bring the War Home, the White Power Movement and Paramilitary America by Kathleen Ballou, A Field Guide to White Supremacy, and The Turner Diaries with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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Over the course of Donald Trump’s presidency, the far-right fringe became a surprisingly visible and influential force in American politics. Eruptions of extremist violence — including the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Va., in 2017 and the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection — have made militant groups like the Proud Boys and conspiracy theories like QAnon into household names. On his popular cable news show, Tucker Carlson recently name-checked the “great replacement” conspiracy theory. And in a recent survey, nearly a third of Republicans agreed with the statement that “true American patriots may have to resort to violence in order to save our country.” The historian Kathleen Belew has spent her career studying political violence and the once-fringe ideas that now animate even right-of-center politics and news media. She is a co-editor of “A Field Guide to White Supremacy” and the author of “Bring the War Home: The White Power Movement and Paramilitary America,” which tells the story of how groups — including the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis and Aryan Nations — coalesced into a radical white-power movement after the Vietnam War. These groups were united by a core set of beliefs about the threats of demographic change and governmental overreach, perceived hostility toward white Americans and the necessity of extra-political, often violent, action to achieve their aims. This is a conversation about how some of those ideas have seeped into mainstream Republican politics and what that could mean for the future of the party — and the country. It explores the radicalizing effects of Jan. 6, how irony and meme culture import far-right ideas into popular media, how warfare abroad can produce violence at home, why politics has started to feel apocalyptic across the spectrum, whether left-wing violence is as serious a threat as right-wing violence and more. Mentioned: Radical American Partisanship by Lilliana Mason and Nathan P. Kalmoe Messengers of the Right by Nicole Hemmer The Hispanic Republican by Geraldo Cadava Mothers of Massive Resistance by Elizabeth Gillespie McRae Book Recommendations: Fortress America by Elaine Tyler May Future Home of the Living God by Louise Erdrich Tiny You by Jennifer Holland This episode is guest-hosted by Nicole Hemmer, a historian whose work focuses on right-wing media and American politics. She is an associate research scholar with the Obama Presidency Oral History Project at Columbia University and author of “Messengers of the Right: Conservative Media and the Transformation of American Politics.” You can follow her on Twitter @PastPunditry. (Learn more about the other guest hosts during Ezra’s parental leave here.) You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of "The Ezra Klein Show" at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. “The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld and Rogé Karma; fact-checking by Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld, audience strategy by Shannon Busta. Special thanks to Kristin Lin.
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  • Referenced books include Messengers of the Right, Conservative Media, and the Transformation of American Politics by Nicole Hammer and Bring the War Home, the White Power Movement and Paramilitary America by Kathleen Ballou.
  • The strongest audience signal points to Individuals interested in American politics and media studies and Those interested in political history and extremism.

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Deep Dive(4)Critical Analysis(2)Highly Recommended(1)
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Individuals interested in American politics and media studiesThose interested in political history and extremismIndividuals interested in political history and extremismscholars and activists studying extremist movementsHistorians and political analystsIndividuals interested in understanding the intersection of race, immigration, and politics.

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Messengers of the Right, Conservative Media, and the Transformation of American Politics cover
Best for Individuals interested in American politics and media studiesOften cited around conservative media influence

Nicole is the author of Messengers of the Right, Conservative Media, and the Transformation of American Politics.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals interested in American politics and media studies
Key quote: I have learned so much from Nicole about the intersection of conservatism and American politics and the role of the American people in the world.
Nicole Hammer's book provides valuable insights into the transformation of American politics through conservative media. The host emphasizes the importance of understanding these dynamics to grasp the current political landscape.
ASIN: B079C4N1KY
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Bring the War Home, the White Power Movement and Paramilitary America cover
Best for Those interested in political history and extremismOften cited around fringe right-wing ideas

Her book is a groundbreaking account of how groups like the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis and Aryan nations coalesced into a broader white power movement after the Vietnam War.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Those interested in political history and extremism
Key quote: Her book is a groundbreaking account of how groups like the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis and Aryan nations coalesced into a broader white power movement after the Vietnam War.
The host mentions Kathleen Ballou's book to highlight how fringe right-wing ideologies have infiltrated mainstream politics. Ballou's research provides a historical context for understanding the rise of extremist movements in America.
ASIN: 0674237692
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A Field Guide to White Supremacy cover
Best for Individuals interested in political history and extremismOften cited around fringe right-wing ideas

Kathleen is also the co-editor of the new book, A Field Guide to White Supremacy, which maps connections between past and present instances of racist violence.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in political history and extremism
Key quote: Kathleen is also the co-editor of the new book, A Field Guide to White Supremacy, which maps connections between past and present instances of racist violence and the political and social networks behind them.
The host mentions 'A Field Guide to White Supremacy' to highlight the connections between historical and contemporary instances of racist violence. This book serves as a resource for understanding the evolution of extremist ideologies and their infiltration into mainstream politics.
ASIN: 0520382528
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The Turner Diaries cover
Best for scholars and activists studying extremist movementsOften cited around radicalization and violence

The Turner Diaries is a novel that came out in the late 1970s and was circulated widely in the white power movement, laying out a game plan for guerrilla warfare and a white power revolution.

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Sentiment: Critical Analysis
For: scholars and activists studying extremist movements
Key quote: What the Turner Diaries does is lay out a game plan for a incremental series of guerrilla warfare actions, cell-style organizing, seizure of a white homeland, the use of nuclear weapons to provoke a detente with the United States.
The host discusses 'The Turner Diaries' as a pivotal text that informs the strategies of radical groups, particularly in relation to planned violence. The book provides a disturbing blueprint for guerrilla warfare and the overthrow of the U.S. government, which resonates with the events of January 6th.
ASIN: B08QFCR5CV
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Bring the War Home cover
Best for Individuals interested in political history and extremismOften cited around fringe right-wing ideas

An earlier draft of your book, Bring the War Home, included a chapter where you were trying to persuade readers that we need to pay attention to extremist groups, even though they existed on the fringe of politics.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in political history and extremism
Key quote: Kathleen's research on the different strands of the white power movement across time has helped me understand more recent eruptions of radical far-right violence.
The host mentions 'Bring the War Home' to highlight the historical context of the white power movement and its influence on contemporary politics. Kathleen Ballou's research provides insights into how extremist ideologies have permeated mainstream political discourse.
ASIN: 0674237692
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A Black Man in the White House cover
Best for Historians and political analystsOften cited around racial dynamics in politics

This is something that pollster Cornell Belcher writes about in his book, A Black Man in the White House.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Historians and political analysts
Key quote: This is something that pollster Cornell Belcher writes about in his book, A Black Man in the White House.
The host mentions 'A Black Man in the White House' to highlight how the election of Barack Obama influenced racial dynamics and the rise of the white power movement. The book provides insights into the polarization around racial resentment during Obama's presidency, illustrating the complexities of race in contemporary America.
ASIN: 162134360X
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Alien Nation
Peter Brimlow
Best for Individuals interested in understanding the intersection of race, immigration, and politics.Often cited around fear of demographic change

In 1995, you have this book that's written called Alien Nation. The author is Peter Brimlow.

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Sentiment: Critical Analysis
For: Individuals interested in understanding the intersection of race, immigration, and politics.
Key quote: In 1995, you have this book that's written called Alien Nation.
The host mentions 'Alien Nation' to illustrate how demographic fears have been historically weaponized in American politics. The book serves as a critical example of how mainstream narratives can perpetuate racist ideologies regarding immigration and race.
ASIN: B00BHNCGCE
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