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It's Time for the Media to Choose: Neutrality or Democracy?

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Notable books mentioned: Messengers of the Right, Conservative Media, and the Transformation of American Politics by Nicole Hammer, Boys on the Bus by Timothy Krause, Making News by Gaye Tuchman, Deciding What's News by Herbert Ganz

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Messengers of the Right, Conservative Media, and the Transformation of American Politics
Nicole Hammer

Nicole Hammer's book provides an in-depth analysis of how conservative media has shaped American political discourse. Ezra Klein highlights her exp…

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Boys on the Bus
Timothy Krause

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Making News
Gaye Tuchman

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It's Time for the Media to Choose: Neutrality or Democracy? mentions Messengers of the Right, Conservative Media, and the Transformation of American Politics by Nicole Hammer, Boys on the Bus by Timothy Krause, Making News by Gaye Tuchman, and Deciding What's News by Herbert Ganz with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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“Making it harder to vote, and harder to understand what the party is really about — these are two parts of the same project” for the Republican Party, Jay Rosen writes. “The conflict with honest journalism is structural. To be its dwindling self, the G.O.P. has to also be at war with the press, unless of course the press folds under pressure.” Rosen is a professor of journalism at N.Y.U., author of the blog “PressThink,” and one of America’s sharpest contemporary media critics. And his argument is a simple one: The media’s implicit model of American politics — of two coequal parties with competing governing philosophies — is fundamentally broken. Today, the most important axis of political conflict is not between left and right, but between pro- and anti-democracy forces. The way Rosen sees it, the American mainstream press must make a choice: Will it double down on its commitment to detached, nonpartisan neutrality? Or will it choose instead to boldly and aggressively defend truth and democracy? These days, Rosen’s view seems almost common-sensical. But he’s been critiquing “both sides” journalism — and the model of politics underlying it — for years now, long before such arguments came into vogue. As a result, he’s done some of the most original thinking about what an alternative model of journalism would look like, and wrestled with the inevitable political, social and economic tensions that come with it. So this conversation is about what pro-democracy journalism could look like in practice and the thorny questions that this approach to coverage raises. But it also touches on the drawbacks of the press’s focus on Senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema; how journalists should cover Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson; why Rosen believes “moderate” and “centrist” are “two of the most ideology-soaked terms” in political journalism; the consequences of an economy where political news has to compete for attention with Netflix, Xbox and TikTok; and why Substack and podcasting may hold one of the keys to restoring trust in the media. Mentioned: “Americans’ Trust in Media Dips to Second Lowest on Record” by Megan Brenan “The Coming Confrontation Between the American Press and the Republican Party” by Jay Rosen on PressThink “Battleship Newspaper” by Jay Rosen on PressThink “Election Coverage: The Road Not Taken” by Jay Rosen on PressThink CBS News poll on Build Back Better Book Recommendations: The Boys on the Bus by Timothy Crouse Making News by Gaye Tuchman Deciding What’s News by Herbert Gans This episode is guest-hosted by Nicole Hemmer, a historian whose work focuses on the right-wing media and American politics. She is an associate research scholar with the Obama Presidency Oral History Project at Columbia and author of “Messengers of the Right: Conservative Media and the Transformation of American Politics.” You can follow her on Twitter @PastPunditry. (There’s more about the other guest hosts during Ezra’s parental leave here.) You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of "The Ezra Klein Show" at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. “The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld and Rogé Karma; fact-checking by Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld, audience strategy by Shannon Busta. Special thanks to Kristin Lin.
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Nicole is the author of Messengers of the Right, Conservative Media, and the Transformation of American Politics.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals interested in media studies and political discourse
Key quote: I have learned so much from Nicole about the intersection of conservatism and American politics and the media.
Nicole Hammer's book provides an in-depth analysis of how conservative media has shaped American political discourse. Ezra Klein highlights her expertise and the importance of understanding these dynamics in today's media landscape.
ASIN: B079C4N1KY
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Boys on the Bus
Timothy Krause
Best for Journalism students and professionalsOften cited around journalism and diversity

A portrait of the campaign press at work in the 1970s, helping to understand the powerful peer culture in journalism.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Journalism students and professionals
Key quote: One is Boys on the Bus by Timothy Krause, which was a portrait of the campaign press at work.
The host mentions 'Boys on the Bus' to illustrate the influence of peer culture in journalism, particularly during the 1970s. This book serves as a critical lens through which to understand the dynamics of the campaign press and its relevance to contemporary discussions about diversity in newsrooms.
ASIN: 0812968204
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Making News
Gaye Tuchman
Best for journalism students and professionalsOften cited around diversity in journalism

A sociological study of newsrooms in the 70s and 80s, explaining objectivity as a strategic ritual journalists repeat.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: journalism students and professionals
Key quote: she came up with this notion of objectivity as a strategic ritual that journalists repeat in order to show I'm not cooking the books.
The host mentions 'Making News' to highlight the sociological perspective on journalism and the concept of objectivity as a strategic ritual. This book is recommended for its in-depth examination of newsroom dynamics and the importance of diverse perspectives in journalism.
ASIN: 0029329302
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Best for Journalism students and professionalsOften cited around diversity in journalism

A sociological examination of newsrooms, valuable for its outsider perspective on how journalists act.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Journalism students and professionals
Key quote: A third book is called Deciding What's News by Herbert Ganz, who's also a sociologist.
The host mentioned 'Deciding What's News' to highlight the importance of sociological perspectives in understanding newsroom dynamics. This book, along with others by sociologists, provides valuable insights into the contradictions faced by journalists today.
ASIN: 0394503597
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