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The Ezra Klein ShowOct 26, 2021

Long Covid and the Blind Spots of American Medicine

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Notable books mentioned: Alice James's diary, The Lyme Wars by Michael Spector, The germ theory of disease, The Journal of a Disappointed Man by W. N. P. Barbellion

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One of the most frightening, least understood aspects of the coronavirus pandemic is what’s come to be known as “long Covid.” Stories abound of young, healthy adults who experienced mild or asymptomatic coronavirus infections and recovered fairly quickly, only to experience an onset of debilitating symptoms weeks or even months later. One major study of almost two million Covid patients in the United States found that nearly a quarter sought medical treatment for new conditions one month or more after their initial infection. Scientists still don’t fully understand what’s causing long Covid or how to best treat it. But in that sense, long Covid isn’t all that novel. Today, millions of Americans suffer from chronic illnesses set off by the body’s response to infections. Many of these conditions routinely go undiagnosed or are misdiagnosed. And even those who find their conditions identified correctly often struggle to find treatments that work for them. “To have a poorly understood disease,” writes Meghan O’Rourke, “is to be brought up against every flaw in the U.S. health care system; to collide with the structural problems of a late-capitalist society that values productivity more than health; and to confront the philosophical problem of conveying an experience that lacks an accepted framework.” O’Rourke, an award-winning journalist and poet and the editor of The Yale Review, has spent more than a decade of her life struggling with chronic illness, a journey she documents in her forthcoming book, “The Invisible Kingdom: Reimagining Chronic Illness.” In it, O’Rourke uses her experience to illuminate the facets of American society that often remain invisible to the rest of us: the blind spots in our scientific and medical paradigms, the shortcomings of our individualistic ethos, the way economic inequalities show up in our bodies, our culture’s tendency to pathologize suffering. So this conversation begins with long Covid and the debates surrounding it, which O’Rourke has done excellent reporting and writing on. But it is also about what it’s like to experience America’s hidden chronic illness epidemic firsthand, and what that epidemic reveals about the society that too often pretends it doesn’t exist. Mentioned: “Long-Haulers Are Fighting for Their Future” by Ed Yong “Lyme Disease Is Baffling, Even to Experts” by Meghan O’Rourke “Unlocking the Mysteries of Long Covid” by Meghan O’Rourke The Deep Places: A Memoir of Illness and Discovery by Ross Douthat Book Recommendations: The Journal of a Disappointed Man by W.N.P. Barbellion On Immunity by Eula Biss The Cancer Journals by Audre Lorde This episode is guest-hosted by Ross Douthat, a New York Times columnist whose work focuses on politics, conservatism, religion and, more recently, chronic illness. He is also the author of numerous books, including “The Deep Places” and “The Decadent Society.” You can read his work here and follow him on Twitter @DouthatNYT (Learn more about the other guest hosts during Ezra’s parental leave here.) You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of "The Ezra Klein Show" at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. “The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld and Rogé Karma; fact-checking by Mary Marge Locker and Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld, audience strategy by Shannon Busta. Special thanks to Kristin Lin.
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Individuals dealing with chronic illnesses and healthcare professionalsReaders interested in personal narratives of health and illnessIndividuals affected by Lyme disease and those interested in medical controversies.medical professionals and researchersReaders interested in personal narratives about illness and resilience.Readers interested in health, illness narratives, and vaccination

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Best for Individuals dealing with chronic illnesses and healthcare professionalsOften cited around chronic illness experience

The speaker mentions their own book in the context of discussing their experiences as a patient and the challenges of being taken seriously by doctors.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals dealing with chronic illnesses and healthcare professionals
Key quote: As I think I say in the book that I've just written, at some point I realized that I was what this very famous paper coined the term for what doctors call heart sink patients.
The host discusses their personal struggles with chronic illness and the challenges of being understood by medical professionals. They mention their book to highlight the need for better language to describe the profound experiences of suffering associated with such conditions.
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Best for Readers interested in personal narratives of health and illnessOften cited around Alice James's experiences

The speaker references Alice James's diary, noting a moment where she rejoices in finally receiving a palpable disease diagnosis after a life of contested illnesses.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in personal narratives of health and illness
Key quote: she rejoices in finally receiving a palpable disease diagnosis after a life of contested illnesses.
The host mentions Alice James's diary to highlight the emotional relief she felt upon receiving a definitive diagnosis after years of uncertainty. This moment underscores the complexities of living with contested illnesses and the significance of validation in one's health journey.
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The Lyme Wars
Michael Spector
Best for Individuals affected by Lyme disease and those interested in medical controversies.Often cited around Lyme disease treatment decisions

This is the line of thinking that they're coming to the table with. You and I enter the idea that we might have Lyme disease, very cognizant that there's essentially an all out scientific war happening over what is the very nature of this disease.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals affected by Lyme disease and those interested in medical controversies.
Key quote: So what we're talking about is what Michael Spector called the Lyme Wars.
The host discusses the complexities and uncertainties surrounding Lyme disease treatment, particularly the debate over the effectiveness of antibiotics. They reference Michael Spector's book 'The Lyme Wars' to highlight the ongoing scientific conflict regarding the persistence of Lyme bacteria and the treatment options available.
ASIN: B0CNWY2NHK
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Best for medical professionals and researchersOften cited around chronic illness treatment

In your book, you talk about this as the germ theory of disease, right? The basic, the foundation of the success of Western medicine is the idea that you have an invading pathogen, you find something to treat it, and people either get better or they don't.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: medical professionals and researchers
Key quote: the very success of our how we treat acute illnesses means that the medical system we have just it's not set up to treat chronic illness at all
The host mentions 'The Germ Theory of Disease' to highlight the foundational principles of Western medicine in treating acute illnesses. They contrast this with the challenges faced in treating chronic conditions, emphasizing the need for a shift in medical care models.
ASIN: 3385349370
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Best for Readers interested in personal narratives about illness and resilience.Often cited around experience of illness

A diary kept by a young man with MS who wanted to become a zoologist, reflecting on his experiences with sickness and his love for nature.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Readers interested in personal narratives about illness and resilience.
Key quote: It's just an extraordinary book, and it kind of kept me company when I felt really alone.
The host mentions 'The Journal of a Disappointed Man' as a deeply personal account that resonates with the struggles of living with illness. It serves as a source of companionship during lonely times, highlighting the intersection of frustration and joy in the author's life.
ASIN: 0486817393
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Best for Readers interested in health, illness narratives, and vaccinationOften cited around scientific culture and vaccination

A contemporary book that examines scientific culture and cultural narratives around vaccination.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Readers interested in health, illness narratives, and vaccination
Key quote: A more contemporary book that I love for the way that it looks at kind of scientific culture and cultural narratives around things like vaccination is Eulabysus on Immunity and Inoculation.
The host mentions 'Eulabysus on Immunity and Inoculation' as a contemporary book that explores scientific culture and cultural narratives surrounding vaccination. This recommendation is made in the context of discussing the complexities of illness and the narratives that shape our understanding of health.
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Cancer Journal
Audre Lorde
Best for Readers interested in personal narratives about illness and cultural commentary.Often cited around cancer experience and narratives

A record of Audre Lorde's experience with cancer, focusing on her diagnosis, mastectomy, and the intersection of sickness with cultural narratives.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in personal narratives about illness and cultural commentary.
Key quote: Another book that I thought was extraordinary was Audre Lorde's Cancer Journal, which was kind of keeping track of what it was like to be diagnosed with and have cancer and get a mastectomy and is very sharp on, again, kind of the ways in which a sick body intersects with pre-existing cultural narratives and just an extraordinary piece of writing.
The host mentioned Audre Lorde's 'Cancer Journal' to highlight the profound insights it offers on the intersection of illness and cultural narratives. The book serves as a poignant reflection on the experience of being diagnosed with cancer and the complexities surrounding it.
ASIN: 0143135201
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