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Did the Boomers Ruin America? A Debate.

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Notable books mentioned: OK Boomer, Let's Talk, How My Generation Got Left Behind by Jill Filipovich, Boomers, The Men and Women Who Promised Freedom and Delivered Disaster by Helen Andrews, The Culture of Narcissism, The Two-Income Trap

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OK Boomer, Let's Talk, How My Generation Got Left Behind
Jill Filipovich

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Helen Andrews

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The Culture of Narcissism

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Did the Boomers Ruin America? A Debate. mentions OK Boomer, Let's Talk, How My Generation Got Left Behind by Jill Filipovich, Boomers, The Men and Women Who Promised Freedom and Delivered Disaster by Helen Andrews, The Culture of Narcissism, and The Two-Income Trap with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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Donald Trump was the fourth member of the baby boomer generation to be elected president, after Barack Obama, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton. The Senate majority leader, Chuck Schumer, is a boomer. Chief Justice John Roberts is a boomer. The Federal Reserve chair, Jerome Powell, is a boomer. President Joe Biden and Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Senate minority leader, Mitch McConnell, were born a few years too early to officially qualify as boomers, but they’re close. We’re living in the world the boomers and nearly boomers built, and are still building. This is not, to younger Americans, a comfort. One 2018 poll found that just over half of millennials said that boomers made things worse for their generation; only 13 percent said they made things better. Then there was the rise of the “OK Boomer” meme in 2019, an all-purpose dismissal of boomer politics and rhetoric. But the boomers are a vast group, as are all generations. So is this a useful category for political argument? And even if it is, what, precisely, is it that the boomers did wrong? Jill Filipovic is a journalist, former lawyer and the author of “OK Boomer, Let’s Talk: How My Generation Got Left Behind,” a primarily economic critique of the boomer generation from the left. Helen Andrews is a senior editor at The American Conservative and author of “Boomers: The Men and Women Who Promised Freedom and Delivered Disaster,” a searing cultural critique of the boomers from the right. Filipovic and Andrews, both of whom are millennials (as am I), agree that the boomers left our generation worse off; but they disagree on just about everything else, which makes this conversation all the more interesting. We discuss the value of generational analysis, the legacy of the sexual revolution, the impact of boomer economic policies, the decline of the nuclear family, the so-called millennial sex recession, the millennial affordability crisis, the impact of pornography, how much the critique of the boomers is really a critique of technological change and much more. Mentioned in this episode: American Compass survey on family preferences "The share of Americans not having sex has reached a record high" by Christopher Ingraham "The Rise of Childless America" by Lyman Stone Jill’s recommendations: "The Culture of Narcissism" by Christopher Lasch "Can't Even" by Anne Helen Petersen "Goodnight Moon" by Margaret Wise Brown Helen’s recommendations: "A Tale of Two Utopias" by Paul Berman "Coming of Age on Zoloft" by Katherine Sharpe "A Book of Americans" by Stepehen Vincent Benét You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of "The Ezra Klein Show" at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. “The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Rogé Karma and Jeff Geld; fact-checking by Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld.
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  • The conversation centers on understanding boomers and millennials.
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OK Boomer, Let's Talk, How My Generation Got Left Behind cover
Best for young adults and millennialsOften cited around generational frustration

Jill Filipovich is a writer, commentator, a lawyer, and she's the author of the book OK Boomer, Let's Talk, How My Generation Got Left Behind, which is a very nice encapsulation of the economic case for millennial rage.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: young adults and millennials
Key quote: Jill Filipovich is a writer, commentator, a lawyer, and she's the author of the book OK Boomer, Let's Talk, How My Generation Got Left Behind, which is a very nice encapsulation of the economic case for millennial rage.
The host mentions Jill Filipovich's book to highlight the economic grievances that millennials feel towards older generations, particularly the boomers. This book serves as a lens to understand the broader critique of generational power dynamics and the frustrations stemming from perceived inequities.
ASIN: B0851N2383
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Boomers, The Men and Women Who Promised Freedom and Delivered Disaster cover
Best for Readers interested in generational studies and socio-political critiques.Often cited around generational analysis critique

Helen Andrews is a senior editor at the American Conservative and author of Boomers, The Men and Women Who Promised Freedom and Delivered Disaster. Which is a pretty searing critique from the right.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in generational studies and socio-political critiques.
Key quote: Helen Andrews is a senior editor at the American Conservative and author of Boomers, The Men and Women Who Promised Freedom and Delivered Disaster.
The host mentions Helen Andrews' book to highlight the critical perspective from the right regarding the impact of the baby boomer generation on contemporary society. This discussion aims to explore the complexities of generational dynamics and the critiques surrounding them.
ASIN: 0593086759
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The Culture of Narcissism cover
Best for Readers interested in generational studies and cultural critiques.Often cited around generational analysis value

There was a whole book written about them called The Culture of Narcissism.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Readers interested in generational studies and cultural critiques.
Key quote: There was a whole book written about them called The Culture of Narcissism.
The host mentions 'The Culture of Narcissism' to illustrate how previous generations, particularly boomers, have been critiqued for their perceived self-centeredness. This reference serves to highlight the ongoing discourse about generational blame and the complexities of political polarization within the boomer cohort.
ASIN: 0393356175
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The Two-Income Trap cover
Best for Individuals interested in family economics and societal changesOften cited around two-income family challenges

The discussion revolves around the economic challenges faced by families today compared to the past, particularly regarding the ability to raise children on a single income.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in family economics and societal changes
Key quote: The problem with that is not that women are in the workplace.
The host discusses the economic challenges faced by modern families, particularly the shift from single-income to dual-income households. They reference 'The Two-Income Trap' to highlight how this change has made it difficult for families to afford a middle-class lifestyle and raise children effectively.
ASIN: 0465097707
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The Atlantic
David Brooks
Best for Individuals interested in family dynamics and cultural historyOften cited around family structure changes

There’s a great David Brooks piece in The Atlantic about it from a year or two ago, discussing the nuclear family and its historical context.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Individuals interested in family dynamics and cultural history
Key quote: There's a great David Brooks piece in The Atlantic about it from a year or two ago.
The host mentions David Brooks' piece in The Atlantic to highlight the historical shifts in family structures and the challenges faced by modern families. This reference serves to illustrate the disconnect between cultural changes and the political landscape that has hindered the development of alternative family models.
ASIN: B0DN5XYC97
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The Racism of the Tax Code cover
Best for Individuals interested in social justice and economic policyOften cited around racism in tax policy

Dorothy A. Brown has a book out now about the racism of the tax code, which is described as totally fascinating.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals interested in social justice and economic policy
Key quote: You know, there's an academic named Dorothy A. Brown, who has a book out now about the racism of the tax code.
The host mentions Dorothy A. Brown's book to highlight the misconceptions surrounding the tax code's neutrality. They emphasize that the policies reflect the biases of their creators, which contributes to systemic issues in society.
ASIN: 0525577335
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The Culture of Narcissism, American Life in an Age of Diminishing Expectations cover
Best for millennialsOften cited around millennials and boomers

Jill recommends this book for millennials to understand boomers, noting its insights into the cultural dynamics between the two generations.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: millennials
Key quote: I would love every millennial to read The Culture of Narcissism, American Life in an Age of Diminishing Expectations.
The host recommends 'The Culture of Narcissism' as a crucial read for millennials to understand the parallels between their experiences and those of boomers. The book provides insights into the criticisms faced by boomers in their youth, which millennials can relate to in their current societal context.
ASIN: 0393356175
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A Tale of Two Utopias cover
Best for millennials seeking to understand boomersOften cited around understanding boomers and millennials

Helen suggests this book for understanding the new left and the ideals of the student rebellion from a critical perspective.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: millennials seeking to understand boomers
Key quote: My choice is Paul Berman's A Tale of Two Utopias.
The host mentioned 'A Tale of Two Utopias' to provide insight into the perspectives of the new left during the 1968 student rebellion and how those ideals evolved over time. This book serves as a critical resource for millennials to understand the motivations and disillusionments of their boomer predecessors.
ASIN: 0393039277
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Can't Even, How Millennials Became the Burnout Generation cover
Best for Boomers and anyone interested in millennial issuesOften cited around understanding millennials

Helen recommends this book for boomers to better understand the struggles of millennials, highlighting its cultural insights.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Boomers and anyone interested in millennial issues
Key quote: And she does a really genius job of distilling it down in a way that I think hopefully will make boomers and anyone else a bit more sympathetic to what millennials struggle with.
The host mentioned Anne Helen Peterson's book as a crucial read for boomers to gain insight into the struggles faced by millennials. The book is praised for its cultural analysis, which helps bridge the generational gap in understanding.
ASIN: B08GV3DCB4
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Coming of Age on Zola
Catherine Sharp
Best for Boomers seeking to understand millennialsOften cited around understanding millennials and boomers

Helen mentions this book as a memoir that addresses the impact of mind-altering drugs on her generation's upbringing.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Boomers seeking to understand millennials
Key quote: Sharp's book gives on the one hand, a good objective assessment of the problem of overdiagnosis within the discipline of psychiatry, but also a firsthand memoir of what it was like for her.
Helen recommends 'Coming of Age on Zola' as a crucial read for boomers to understand the impact of overdiagnosis in psychiatry on millennials. The book combines an objective assessment of mental health issues with a personal memoir, offering insight into the struggles faced by the younger generation.
ASIN: B006IY9G48
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A Book of Americans
Stephen Vincent Binet
Best for Readers interested in American history and poetryOften cited around Understanding boomers and millennials

Helen describes this children's book as a patriotic yet nuanced portrayal of American history through poetry.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Readers interested in American history and poetry
Key quote: Stephen Vincent Binet was an American poet of the early 20th century, and he wrote A Book of Americans, which is lots of short, light verse about famous characters from American history from Pocahontas all the way through Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson.
The host mentions 'A Book of Americans' to highlight its patriotic yet nuanced portrayal of American history. This serves as a counterpoint to the simplistic views often attributed to earlier generations, particularly in discussions about boomers and millennials.
ASIN: B079NL7JY3
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Goodnight Moon cover
Best for Parents and anyone interested in children's literature.Often cited around favorite children's book

Jill shares her favorite childhood book, highlighting its classic status and personal significance.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Parents and anyone interested in children's literature.
Key quote: I read Goodnight Moon now basically every day.
The host mentions 'Goodnight Moon' as a classic children's book that has personal significance. They reflect on their choice of this book over others, highlighting its enduring charm without any political implications.
ASIN: 0694003611
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