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The Ezra Klein ShowMar 12, 2021

How America’s Covid-19 Nightmare Ends

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Notable books mentioned: Like Wars by Emerson, Birking and P.W. Singer, The Autobiography of Malcolm X, The Hungry, Hungry Caterpillar

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Emerson, Birking and P.W. Singer

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The Hungry, Hungry Caterpillar

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On Jan. 28, I published a column that began like this: “I hope, in the end, that this article reads as alarmism. I hope that a year from now it’s a piece people point to as an overreaction.” Today, that column, thankfully, does look like alarmism. Cases fell, and kept falling, even in places beset by new variants. The U.S. vaccination effort accelerated. And there’s going to be vastly more vaccine supply in the coming months. Few emotions are as unnerving right now as hope. No one wants to permit themselves optimism, only to be crushed when death tolls rise. But the case for hope is strengthening. And there are important policy reasons to take that case seriously. Dr. Ashish Jha is a physician, leading health policy researcher and dean of the Brown University School of Public Health. He’s been one of the clearest and most thoughtful voices through this crisis. And he’s feeling hopeful, too. So I asked Jha on the show to guide us through these next months, to help us see what he’s seeing. Don’t get him, or me, wrong: This isn’t over. But in America, things are going to feel very, very different in 45 days, for reasons he explains. And then comes another question: How do we make sure the global end to this crisis comes soon after? A note: This episode was recorded before President Biden’s March 11 address directing states to make all adult Americans eligible to receive Covid vaccines by no later than May 1; however, the timeline Jha and I discuss here is just as ambitious and its implications are just as promising. This is one Covid discussion, finally, that is not going to leave you feeling in despair. Recommendations: "LikeWar" by P. W. Singer and Emerson T. Brooking "The Autobiography of Malcolm X" by Malcolm X and Alex Haley "The Very Hungry Caterpillar" by Eric Carle You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of "The Ezra Klein Show" at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. “The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Rogé Karma and Jeff Geld; fact-checking by Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld.
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Public health professionals and communicatorsIndividuals exploring their identity and understanding systemic racism.Parents and caregivers of young children.

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Like Wars
Emerson, Birking and P.W. Singer
Best for Public health professionals and communicatorsOften cited around impact of misinformation

The book is about social media and wars, information wars, in the social media age, and has profoundly shaped the way I think about public health.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Public health professionals and communicators
Key quote: What I've come to realize is that the information pollution in our kind of information ecosystem, so much of it is so deliberate.
The host mentioned 'Like Wars' to illustrate how misinformation is not just casual but often deliberate and orchestrated. This realization has significantly influenced their perspective on public health communication and the challenges it faces.
ASIN: 0358108470
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The Autobiography of Malcolm X cover
Best for Individuals exploring their identity and understanding systemic racism.Often cited around personal identity and racism

I found the book to be kind of profound in how it shaped my sense of personal identity, especially relevant in the context of racism and systemic racism.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals exploring their identity and understanding systemic racism.
Key quote: I found the book to be kind of profound in how it shaped my sense of personal identity.
The host mentioned 'The Autobiography of Malcolm X' as a significant influence during a time of personal identity exploration. They found the book particularly relevant in light of ongoing national conversations about racism and systemic issues in society.
ASIN: B084Z2Q6DH
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The Hungry, Hungry Caterpillar cover
Best for Parents and caregivers of young children.Often cited around favorite children's book

That was the book that we like. For my oldest, that was the book we went to like every night.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Parents and caregivers of young children.
Key quote: The Hungry, Hungry Caterpillar, who ate everything.
The host mentions 'The Hungry, Hungry Caterpillar' as a beloved children's book that was frequently read to their oldest child. This reference highlights the book's significance in their family's reading routine, emphasizing its appeal to young readers.
ASIN: 0399242058
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