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#20 – The Underground Spirit

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#20 – The Underground Spirit mentions Notes from the Underground by Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Birth of Tragedy by Friedrich Nietzsche, The Joyous Science by Friedrich Nietzsche, and Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoevsky with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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I think the best way to describe Raskolnikov, the protagonist of Crime and Punishment, would be that he is what you get when the underground man, the…

The Birth of Tragedy
Friedrich Nietzsche

Nietzsche brought an early transcript of the book that he was working on, which would become his first book, The Birth of Tragedy. In the book, he de…

The Joyous Science
Friedrich Nietzsche

In The Joyous Science, the same book where his madman announces the death of God, he says that all select spirits and explorers of truth above all, m…

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There’s a quote always attributed to Winston Churchill – falsely, I think? – that goes something like, “If you’re not a liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative by 30, you have no brain.” I’ve got a different version that I like a lot better, and it goes, “If you’re not reading Nietzsche at 20, you have no heart. But if you haven’t transitioned to Dostoevsky by 30…” In this episode, I look through the lives and work of the two 19th century existentialist authors, who have a great deal in common, but who, in the end, couldn’t be more different.Support the show by subscribing to the MartyrMade Substack (https://martyrmade.substack.com).
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Notes from the Underground
Fyodor Dostoevsky

I think the best way to describe Raskolnikov, the protagonist of Crime and Punishment, would be that he is what you g…

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The Birth of Tragedy
Friedrich Nietzsche

Nietzsche brought an early transcript of the book that he was working on, which would become his first book, The Birt…

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The Joyous Science
Friedrich Nietzsche

In The Joyous Science, the same book where his madman announces the death of God, he says that all select spirits and…

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Crime and Punishment
Fyodor Dostoevsky

More than any other of Dostoevsky's books, it was crime and punishment that affected Nietzsche. He called it Dostoevs…

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The Underground Spirit
Fyodor Dostoevsky

That first book of Dostoevsky's, that Nietzsche found, was called The Underground Spirit. The Underground Spirit was…

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Eke Homo
Friedrich Nietzsche

In the closing words of his autobiography, Eke Homo, which he wrote in his last 10 weeks or so of sanity, he wrote th…

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Paradise Lost

The famous line from Paradise Lost, that the mind is its own place, and can make a heaven of hell and a hell of heave…

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The Landlady
Fyodor Dostoevsky

Nietzsche finds a book called 'The Landlady' and reads a story about a young reclusive scholar named Ordenov, which r…

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Notes from the Underground cover

I think the best way to describe Raskolnikov, the protagonist of Crime and Punishment, would be that he is what you get when the underground man, the protagonist from Notes of the Underground, reads Nietzsche.

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The Birth of Tragedy
Friedrich Nietzsche

Nietzsche brought an early transcript of the book that he was working on, which would become his first book, The Birth of Tragedy. In the book, he describes Greek tragedy as developing out of a musical base.

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The Joyous Science
Friedrich Nietzsche

In The Joyous Science, the same book where his madman announces the death of God, he says that all select spirits and explorers of truth above all, must learn to take a veritable delight in madness.

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Crime and Punishment
Fyodor Dostoevsky

More than any other of Dostoevsky's books, it was crime and punishment that affected Nietzsche. He called it Dostoevsky's main work, and fair enough, maybe it is.

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The Underground Spirit
Fyodor Dostoevsky

That first book of Dostoevsky's, that Nietzsche found, was called The Underground Spirit. The Underground Spirit was actually two short Dostoevsky stories packaged as one book.

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Eke Homo
Friedrich Nietzsche

In the closing words of his autobiography, Eke Homo, which he wrote in his last 10 weeks or so of sanity, he wrote that the formula for human greatness was to learn to love one's fate.

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Paradise Lost cover

The famous line from Paradise Lost, that the mind is its own place, and can make a heaven of hell and a hell of heaven, comes to mind when I think of this parallel period in the lives of Dostoevsky and Nietzsche.

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The Landlady
Fyodor Dostoevsky

Nietzsche finds a book called 'The Landlady' and reads a story about a young reclusive scholar named Ordenov, which resonates with his own experiences.

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Thus Spake Zarathustra
Friedrich Nietzsche

Nietzsche's most important book, as far as he was concerned, a book he considered a text of almost sacred knowledge, was called Thus Spake Zarathustra.

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The Brothers Karamazov
Fyodor Dostoevsky

He pulled his strength together and wrote The Brothers Karamazov, which is a world historical masterpiece of literature.

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Thus Spoke Zarathustra
Friedrich Nietzsche

This is a section from Nietzsche's book Thus Spoke Zarathustra, again written long before he ever discovered Dostoevsky.

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The Joy of Science cover

Nietzsche publishes his book, The Joy of Science, sometimes The Joyful Science or The Gay Science, and in it, he raises a question that would become central to his philosophical outlook.

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The Culture of Narcissism cover

In his book, The Culture of Narcissism, Christopher Lash writes of the narcissistic need for adulation.

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The Idiot
Fyodor Dostoevsky

Dostoevsky authored a scene in one of his great books, The Idiot, which drew on his experience of being sentenced to execution.

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Dawn
Friedrich Nietzsche

Nietzsche himself, in his book Dawn, written the year of Dostoevsky's death, wrote, in outbursts of passion and in the fantasizing of dreams and insanity.

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Human, All Too Human
Friedrich Nietzsche

The same year he quit the university, he published Human, All Too Human, the first book of his great period.

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Poor Folk cover
Poor Folk
Fyodor Dostoevsky

Dostoevsky's first book, 'Poor Folk', made him the next big thing at a young age, similar to Nietzsche's early achievements.

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Demons
Dostoevsky

Dostoevsky's book 'Demons' is mentioned, which Nietzsche read and copied passages from into his notebooks.

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Dawn, or Daybreak
Friedrich Nietzsche

In 1881 he published Dawn, or Daybreak. In it he writes, Medical kit for the soul.

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The Bible cover

He asked that the parable of the prodigal son be read to them in his dying presence. Most of us know that it's from the Bible.

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The Gambler cover

He wrote The Gambler and The Eternal Husband, two novellas that are pretty good.

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The Eternal Husband cover

He wrote The Gambler and The Eternal Husband, two novellas that are pretty good.

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Notes from the Underground
The Martyr Made Podcast · 4:28:45
I think the best way to describe Raskolnikov, the protagonist of Crime and Punishment, would be that he is what you get when the underground man, the…
The Birth of Tragedy
The Martyr Made Podcast · 1:56:55
Nietzsche brought an early transcript of the book that he was working on, which would become his first book, The Birth of Tragedy. In the book, he de…
The Joyous Science
The Martyr Made Podcast · 4:15:21
In The Joyous Science, the same book where his madman announces the death of God, he says that all select spirits and explorers of truth above all, m…
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Notes from the Underground cover
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Notes from the Underground
Fyodor Dostoevsky

I think the best way to describe Raskolnikov, the protagonist of Crime and Punishment, would be that he is what you get when the underground man, t…

Direct Amazon listing · affiliate link
The Birth of Tragedy cover
Mentioned at 1:56:55
The Birth of Tragedy
Friedrich Nietzsche

Nietzsche brought an early transcript of the book that he was working on, which would become his first book, The Birth of Tragedy. In the book, he…

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The Joyous Science cover
Mentioned at 4:15:21
The Joyous Science
Friedrich Nietzsche

In The Joyous Science, the same book where his madman announces the death of God, he says that all select spirits and explorers of truth above all,…

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