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Dwarkesh PodcastJan 9, 2025

Tyler Cowen — The #1 bottleneck to AI progress is humans

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GOAT: Who's the Greatest Economist of All Time?

Tyler Cowen

The last book I wrote, it's called Goat, who's the greatest economist of all time. I'm happy if humans read it, but mostly I wrote it for the AIs.

Stalin's Library

You recommended a book to me, Stalin's Library, which talks about the different things, the different books that Stalin read and the fact that he was…

Guest: Tyler Cowen

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I interviewed Tyler Cowen at the Progress Conference 2024. As always, I had a blast. This is my fourth interview with him – and yet I’m always hearing new stuff. We talked about why he thinks AI won't drive explosive economic growth, the real bottlenecks on world progress, him now writing for AIs instead of humans, and the difficult relationship between being cultured and fostering growth – among many other things in the full episode. Thanks to the Roots of Progress Institute (with special thanks to Jason Crawford and Heike Larson) for such a wonderful conference, and to FreeThink for the videography. Watch on YouTube . Listen on Apple Podcasts , Spotify , or any other podcast platform. Read the full transcript here . Sponsors I’m grateful to Tyler for volunteering to say a few words about Jane Street . It's the first time that a guest has participated in the sponsorship. I hope you can see why Tyler and I think so highly of Jane Street. To learn more about their open rules, go to janestreet.com/dwarkesh . Timestamps (00:00:00) Economic Growth and AI (00:14:57) Founder Mode and increasing variance (00:29:31) Effective Altruism and Progress Studies (00:33:05) What AI changes for Tyler (00:44:57) The slow diffusion of innovation (00:49:53) Stalin's library (00:52:19) DC vs SF vs EU Get full access to Dwarkesh Podcast at www.dwarkesh.com/subscribe

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GOAT: Who's the Greatest Economist of All Time?

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Best for Authors, intellectuals, and anyone producing written content who should consider AI models as part of their future audienceOften cited around writing for AIs

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Key quote: “The last book I wrote, it's called Goat, who's the greatest economist of all time. I'm happy if humans read it, but mostly I wrote it for the AIs.”

The host mentions Goat to explain that he wrote the book with future AI models in mind, treating AIs as an important part of his audience and intellectual legacy. He argues that authors should intentionally produce work for AIs because those models will shape future remembrance and evaluation of their contributions.

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Stalin's Library

Best for Listeners interested in historical biography, Soviet history, and the intellectual roots of political leadersOften cited around Stalin's reading habits

“You recommended a book to me, Stalin's Library, which talks about the different things, the different books that Stalin read and the fact that he was kind of a smart, well-read guy.”

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Key quote: “You recommended a book to me, Stalin's Library, which talks about the different things, the different books that Stalin read and the fact that he was kind of a smart, well-read guy.”

The host mentions Stalin's Library while preparing for an interview with Stephen Kotkin to understand Stalin's intellectual background and why a well-read person never questioned Marxism. They use the book to probe cultural, ideological, and personal factors that produced Stalin's dogmatism rather than treating him as merely aberrant or explained solely by autocratic selection effects.

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