267: Wales: The Roar of the Red Dragon

Martin Jones

You could argue that one of the things that brought the different peoples of Wales together, the different medieval kingdoms, was a sense of differen…

Martin Johnes

The narrative about the Welsh language and education in the 19th century is exaggerated and oversimplified.

Hilary Mantel

The mention refers to Thomas Cromwell's project of social democratic modernization, as described by Hilary Mantel.

Guest: Martin Johnes

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What are the origins of Wales? And how do the Welsh define themselves against Englishness? As England play Wales in the World Cup today, Tom and Dominic are joined by Martin Johnes, Professor of History at the University of Swansea, to explore the age old rivalry between the two nations. Join The Rest Is History Club (www.restishistorypod.com) for ad-free listening to the full archive, weekly bonus episodes, live streamed shows and access to an exclusive chatroom community. *The Rest Is History Live Tour 2023*: Tom and Dominic are back on tour this autumn! See them live in London, New Zealand, and Australia! Buy your tickets here: restishistorypod.com Twitter: @TheRestHistory @holland_tom @dcsandbrook

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Martin Jones

Best for Historians and those interested in Welsh historyOften cited around Wales and England's relationship

“Martin Jones, Professor of History at the University of Swansea, discusses his book 'Wales, England's Colony' which explores the historical relationship between Wales and England.”

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Trigger: Wales and England's relationship

For: Historians and those interested in Welsh history

Key quote: “You could argue that one of the things that brought the different peoples of Wales together, the different medieval kingdoms, was a sense of difference to England.”

The host mentioned 'Wales, England's Colony' to explore the historical context of Wales' identity in relation to England. The discussion highlights how Wales has often defined itself against England, particularly during the medieval period when it faced colonial laws and military conquest.

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Best for Scholars and students of Welsh historyOften cited around Welsh language and education

“The speaker references a book that suggests the narrative about the Welsh language and education in the 19th century is exaggerated and oversimplified.”

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Trigger: Welsh language and education

For: Scholars and students of Welsh history

Key quote: “The narrative about the Welsh language and education in the 19th century is exaggerated and oversimplified.”

The host mentions 'Wales: England's Colony?' to challenge the prevailing narratives surrounding the Welsh language and its educational history. This book argues that the common perceptions are often exaggerated and lack nuance.

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Best for Readers interested in historical fiction and political history.Often cited around Thomas Cromwell's modernization project

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Trigger: Thomas Cromwell's modernization project

For: Readers interested in historical fiction and political history.

Key quote: “The mention refers to Thomas Cromwell's project of social democratic modernization, as described by Hilary Mantel.”

The host briefly references 'Wolf Hall' to highlight Thomas Cromwell's role in social democratic modernization. This mention serves to illustrate the historical context of Cromwell's influence as depicted by Hilary Mantel.

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Wales, England's Colony

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You could argue that one of the things that brought the different peoples of Wales together, the different medieval kingdoms, was a sense of differen…

Wales: England's Colony?

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The narrative about the Welsh language and education in the 19th century is exaggerated and oversimplified.

Wolf Hall

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The mention refers to Thomas Cromwell's project of social democratic modernization, as described by Hilary Mantel.

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