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130. Superheroes

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Notable books mentioned: Supergods by Grant Morrison, Super Gods by Grant Morrison, Supergods: What Masked Vigilantes, Miraculous Mutants, and a Sun God from Smallville Can Teach Us About Being Human by Grant Morrison, The Scarlet Pimpernel by Baroness Orksy

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Supergods
Grant Morrison

The host mentions 'Supergods' by Grant Morrison to illustrate the connection between superheroes and humanity's quest for meaning and divinity. Thi…

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Super Gods
Grant Morrison

The host mentions 'Super Gods' by Grant Morrison to explore the connections between modern superheroes and ancient mythology. This discussion highl…

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Supergods: What Masked Vigilantes, Miraculous Mutants, and a Sun God from Smallville Can Teach Us About Being Human
Grant Morrison

The host mentions Grant Morrison's book to highlight the connection between superheroes and humanity's quest for the divine. It serves as a backdro…

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130. Superheroes mentions Supergods by Grant Morrison, Super Gods by Grant Morrison, Supergods: What Masked Vigilantes, Miraculous Mutants, and a Sun God from Smallville Can Teach Us About Being Human by Grant Morrison, and The Scarlet Pimpernel by Baroness Orksy with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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From their origins in the 1930's running parallel to the rise of fascism in Europe, to the Adam West camp of the 1960's, to the gritty modern reboots - what has made Superheroes a cultural phenomenon, and what mirror does it hold up to society? To sign up to the brand new Rest Is History Club, go restishistorypod.com or click here. Benefits for members include an extra episode every week, a live streamed show every month, ad-free listening, and access to a Rest Is History chatroom where we'll be discussing episodes and suggesting subjects for future shows. *The Rest Is History Live Tour 2023*: Tom and Dominic are back on tour this autumn! See them live in London, New Zealand, and Australia! Buy your tickets here: restishistorypod.com Twitter: @TheRestHistory @holland_tom @dcsandbrook
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  • The conversation centers on 20th anniversary of The Lord.
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  • The strongest audience signal points to Fans of superheroes and comic book culture and Fans of superhero narratives and mythology.

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Deep Dive(4)Critical Analysis(2)Passing Reference(2)
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Fans of superheroes and comic book cultureFans of superhero narratives and mythologyListeners interested in superhero culture and its philosophical implications.Fans of comic book history and superhero narrativesReaders interested in the history of comic books and cultural criticismFans of Tolkien and literary analysis enthusiasts

Books Mentioned

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Supergods
Grant Morrison
Best for Fans of superheroes and comic book cultureOften cited around superheroes and identity

Grant Morrison ends his book Supergods, a history of superheroes in which he says they represent our enduring thirst for the cosmic and the sacral.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Fans of superheroes and comic book culture
Key quote: And it is also the way that the comic book writer Grant Morrison ends his book Supergods, a history of superheroes in which he says they represent our enduring thirst for the cosmic and the sacral.
The host mentions 'Supergods' by Grant Morrison to illustrate the connection between superheroes and humanity's quest for meaning and divinity. This reference serves to highlight the cultural significance of superheroes, especially in the context of a new Spider-Man film release.
ASIN: B005E0PPEW
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Super Gods
Grant Morrison
Best for Fans of superhero narratives and mythologyOften cited around rise of superhero stories

Grant Morrison discusses the concept of superheroes in relation to ancient mythology in his book 'Super Gods'.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Fans of superhero narratives and mythology
Key quote: Grant Morrison. Putting it in his book, basically.
The host mentions 'Super Gods' by Grant Morrison to explore the connections between modern superheroes and ancient mythology. This discussion highlights the cultural and technological factors that contributed to the emergence of superhero narratives in the mid-20th century.
ASIN: B005E0PPEW
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Supergods: What Masked Vigilantes, Miraculous Mutants, and a Sun God from Smallville Can Teach Us About Being Human cover
Best for Listeners interested in superhero culture and its philosophical implications.Often cited around superheroes and comics

The mention of Grant Morrison's book discusses the influence of Sherlock Holmes on the creation of Batman, highlighting the athleticism and brainpower attributed to these characters.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Listeners interested in superhero culture and its philosophical implications.
Key quote: I mean, I know a bit because you've told me to read Grant Morrison's book and I realised reading it that occasionally I have stumbled across superheroes.
The host mentions Grant Morrison's book to highlight the connection between superheroes and humanity's quest for the divine. It serves as a backdrop for discussing the relevance of superheroes in contemporary culture, especially with the release of a new Spider-Man film.
ASIN: B07QXC3JJL
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The Scarlet Pimpernel
Baroness Orksy
Best for Fans of comic book history and superhero narrativesOften cited around superheroes and their origins

The Scarlet Pimpernel is discussed as a significant character in the culture of the 1910s and 1920s, with a dual identity that influences later superheroes.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Fans of comic book history and superhero narratives
Key quote: The Scarlet Pimpernel is created initially in a play by Baroness Orksy in 1903 and then the book in 1905.
The host discusses the influence of the Scarlet Pimpernel on the development of superhero characters, highlighting his dual identity as a key element. This character's swashbuckling nature and masked persona set a precedent for later heroes like Batman and Superman.
ASIN: B092P9NRNV
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Best for Readers interested in the history of comic books and cultural criticismOften cited around comic books and morality

Frederick Wertham writes a book called The Seduction of the Innocent, published in 1954, which causes this tremendous stir, claiming comic books corrupt youth.

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Sentiment: Critical Analysis
For: Readers interested in the history of comic books and cultural criticism
Key quote: He writes a book called The Seduction of the Innocent, published in 1954, which causes this tremendous stir.
The host discusses Frederick Wertham's book 'The Seduction of the Innocent' in the context of its impact on comic book culture and societal perceptions in the 1950s. They highlight how Wertham's criticisms of comic books, particularly regarding themes of bondage and authority, sparked significant backlash and debate about the influence of media on youth.
ASIN: 159683000X
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The Lord of the Rings
J.R.R. Tolkien
Best for Fans of Tolkien and literary analysis enthusiastsOften cited around 20th anniversary of The Lord

It's the 20th anniversary of The Lord of the Rings, and the discussion revolves around Tolkien and his inspirations.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Fans of Tolkien and literary analysis enthusiasts
Key quote: I always have things to say about Tolkien, as you know.
The host mentioned 'The Lord of the Rings' in the context of discussing an article about its 20th anniversary. They expressed a deep appreciation for Tolkien's work and the cultural phenomenon surrounding it.
ASIN: B0099SNQYG
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Best for Comic book enthusiasts and those interested in political themes in literature.Often cited around comic book influence

Frank Miller's 'The Dark Knight Returns' features an older Batman in a more aggressive narrative, set in an America under Reagan's presidency.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Comic book enthusiasts and those interested in political themes in literature.
Key quote: So, there's a guy called Frank Miller, who you all know because of 300.
The host discusses the evolution of comic book characters and their societal reflections, specifically mentioning Frank Miller's 'The Dark Knight Returns' as a significant work from the 80s. This book is highlighted for its aggressive portrayal of an older Batman in a politically charged America, showcasing the ideological leanings of comic book writers.
ASIN: 1401263119
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Watchmen
Alan Moore
Best for Readers interested in comic book history and cultural analysisOften cited around superheroes and mythology

'Watchmen' is described as an absolutely classic comic book, listed by Time Magazine as one of the 100 best books of the 20th century.

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Sentiment: Critical Analysis
For: Readers interested in comic book history and cultural analysis
Key quote: they're still not really interested in any of these kind of mythic antecedents.
The host discusses how superheroes, including those in 'Watchmen', are often superficial representations of deeper mythological themes. He argues that while these characters draw on historical and mythological influences, they primarily reflect American societal issues rather than exploring those myths in depth.
ASIN: 1779501129
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Movies & Documentaries Mentioned

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The Man Who Laughs

Confidence: 90%

The look of the Joker apparently came from this 1928 silent film, The Man Who Laughs, featuring a guy, Conrad Veidt.

Movie

The Fellowship of the Ring

Confidence: 100%

It's the 20th anniversary of the release of The Fellowship of the Ring, the first Gerard Tolkien, Lord of the Rings, Peter Jackson film.

Movie

The Lord of the Rings

Confidence: 100%

It's the 20th anniversary of The Lord of the Rings.

Movie

Black Panther

Confidence: 90%

The Black Panther film came out, it was nominated for Oscars and is seen as emblematic of a new multiracial popular culture.

Movie

The Dark Knight Returns

Confidence: 80%

The Dark Knight Returns is much more aggressive and features an older Batman.

Movie

Watchmen

Confidence: 80%

I've seen the film Watchmen but had no idea what was going on.

Movie

Kick-Ass

Confidence: 80%

Kick-Ass is about a comic book fan who dresses up as a superhero.

Movie

The Dark Knight Rises

Confidence: 90%

In the final film of the Christopher Nolan Batman films, The Dark Knight Rises, there are Tale of Two Cities quotations.

Movie

The Dark Knight

Confidence: 80%

Reference to the trend in Batman films since The Dark Knight, indicating a darker portrayal of the character.

Movie

Bond

Confidence: 70%

Mention of a scene from the last Bond film that reflects a common trope in modern storytelling.

Movie

Star Wars

Confidence: 80%

The creation of Star Wars is mentioned in relation to a demand for clearer lines between good and evil in storytelling.