37. Spies, with Ben MacIntyre

“Ben McIntyre, author of Agent Zigzag, Operation Mincemeat, Spy Among Friends, among many others.”

“Ben McIntyre, author of Agent Zigzag, Operation Mincemeat, Spy Among Friends, among many others.”

“Ben McIntyre, author of Agent Zigzag, Operation Mincemeat, Spy Among Friends, among many others.”

“One of which, Ben, was The Spy and the Traitor about Oleg Gordievsky.”

“A Man in Havana, or Le Carré's The Tailor of Panama, which is kind of inspired by that...”

“Lovely that you mentioned Our Man in Havana, because, of course, Our Man in Havana is directly based by Graham Greene on a real...”

“The discussion mentions 'Agent Sonia' as a book about a woman who is not a terribly glamorous character, contrasting with the typical portrayal of spies.”