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32. What if?

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Notable books mentioned: CJ Sansom's brilliant counterfactual novel, Altered Paths by Richard Evans, Counterfactuals by Jeffrey Parker and Philip Tetlock, Escape from Rome by Walter Scheidel

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32. What if? mentions CJ Sansom's brilliant counterfactual novel, Altered Paths by Richard Evans, Counterfactuals by Jeffrey Parker and Philip Tetlock, and Escape from Rome by Walter Scheidel with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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CJ Sansom's brilliant counterfactual novel depicts a shadowy Britain under Nazi dominance, which is considered the best in its genre.

Altered Paths
Richard Evans

the historian, the great historian, the former Regis professor at Cambridge, Richard Evans, he analysed my own pieces in his book, Altered Paths, whi…

Counterfactuals
Jeffrey Parker and Philip Tetlock

But is this really a valid form of historical inquiry, or is it just sort of pub game playing?

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Counterfactuals are the great what ifs of history. Imagine the Nazis winning World War 2, or the Roman Empire never falling. Is this a valid form of historical enquiry? Or is it simply game-playing? Dominic Sandbrook and Tom Holland discuss what might have been.
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  • A second recurring theme is collapse of the Roman empire.
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  • The strongest audience signal points to Readers interested in historical fiction and counterfactual narratives. and Historians and writers interested in narrative history.

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Deep Dive(3)Passing Reference(3)Highly Recommended(1)
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Readers interested in historical fiction and counterfactual narratives.Historians and writers interested in narrative historyHistory enthusiasts and scholarshistory enthusiasts and readers interested in counterfactual analysisReaders interested in speculative fiction and alternative historyHistory enthusiasts and students

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CJ Sansom's brilliant counterfactual novel cover
Best for Readers interested in historical fiction and counterfactual narratives.Often cited around counterfactual literature

The speaker refers to a counterfactual novel by CJ Sansom, suggesting it depicts a shadowy Britain under Nazi dominance, which is considered the best in its genre.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Readers interested in historical fiction and counterfactual narratives.
Key quote: CJ Sansom's brilliant counterfactual novel depicts a shadowy Britain under Nazi dominance, which is considered the best in its genre.
The host highlights CJ Sansom's novel as a standout example of counterfactual literature, emphasizing its unique portrayal of a Britain under Nazi rule. This book is praised for its depth and creativity within the genre.
ASIN: B00HU7MAO0
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Altered Paths
Richard Evans
Best for Historians and writers interested in narrative historyOften cited around counterfactual history analysis

The historian, the great historian, the former Regis professor at Cambridge, Richard Evans, he analysed my own pieces in his book, Altered Paths, which is about counterfactuals.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Historians and writers interested in narrative history
Key quote: the historian, the great historian, the former Regis professor at Cambridge, Richard Evans, he analysed my own pieces in his book, Altered Paths, which is about counterfactuals.
The host discusses the complexities of writing history and the role of counterfactuals, referencing Richard Evans' book 'Altered Paths' to highlight the nuances of what-if scenarios. Evans' analysis helped the host realize that their own writing leaned more towards parallel histories rather than pure counterfactuals.
ASIN: 1408705524
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Counterfactuals
Jeffrey Parker and Philip Tetlock
Best for History enthusiasts and scholarsOften cited around historical counterfactuals

The discussion includes a reference to a book by Jeffrey Parker and Philip Tetlock that talks about different kinds of counterfactuals in history.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: History enthusiasts and scholars
Key quote: But is this really a valid form of historical inquiry, or is it just sort of pub game playing?
The hosts discuss the concept of counterfactuals in history, exploring how alternative outcomes can shape our understanding of past events. They reference the book 'Counterfactuals' to delve into the implications of these hypothetical scenarios on historical narratives.
ASIN: B01NBPKYDW
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Escape from Rome
Walter Scheidel
Best for history enthusiasts and readers interested in counterfactual analysisOften cited around collapse of the Roman empire

Walter Scheidel's Escape from Rome argues that the industrial revolution would have been impossible without the collapse of the Roman empire.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: history enthusiasts and readers interested in counterfactual analysis
Key quote: his thesis essentially is that, um, the industrial revolution would have been impossible without the collapse of the Roman empire, because it's the collapse of the Roman empire that generates a fragmented Europe.
The host discusses Walter Scheidel's book 'Escape from Rome' to illustrate the argument that the collapse of the Roman Empire was essential for the emergence of modern industrial society. The book engages with counterfactual history, exploring how unique historical circumstances shaped the development of Europe.
ASIN: 0691216738
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Fatherland
Robert Harris
Best for Readers interested in historical fiction and counterfactual narratives.Often cited around counterfactual history

The novelist Robert Harris in his hugely popular counterfactual novel Fatherland, which imagines the frightening thought that the Nazis have won the Second World War.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Readers interested in historical fiction and counterfactual narratives.
Key quote: So writes the novelist Robert Harris in his hugely popular counterfactual novel Fatherland, which imagines the frightening thought that the Nazis have won the Second World War.
The host mentions 'Fatherland' to illustrate a popular example of counterfactual history, where the narrative explores a world in which the Nazis won World War II. This reference serves to frame the broader discussion on the validity and implications of historical what-ifs.
ASIN: B0752XMFQK
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The Difference Engine
William Gibson and Bruce Sterling
Best for Readers interested in speculative fiction and alternative historyOften cited around alternative history novels

The Difference Engine is a world in which Babbage and Ada Lovelace invent the computer, leading to a technologically advanced Victorian England.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Readers interested in speculative fiction and alternative history
Key quote: I don't know if you've read that by William Gibson and Bruce Sterling, which is a world in which, um, Babbage and Ada Lovelace invent the computer.
The host mentions 'The Difference Engine' to illustrate a specific type of alternative history that incorporates technological advancements in a fantastical setting. They highlight how the book presents a world where early computing technology was developed, which serves as an example of how such narratives can diverge from historical plausibility.
ASIN: B004SQV8HG
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a fantastic new history of the Aztecs cover
Best for History enthusiasts and studentsOften cited around European conquest of the Americas

The podcast mentions Camilla Townsend's upcoming book, which is described as a fantastic new history of the Aztecs.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: History enthusiasts and students
Key quote: we're going to have Camilla Townsend author of a fantastic new history of the Aztecs coming on, um, in a few weeks, I hope.
The host mentioned Camilla Townsend's book to highlight the complexities of the Aztec civilization and their potential technological advancements. This reference serves to illustrate the hypothetical scenarios surrounding the European conquest and its historical implications.
ASIN: 0197577660
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CJ Sansom's brilliant counterfactual novel cover
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CJ Sansom's brilliant counterfactual novel

The host highlights CJ Sansom's novel as a standout example of counterfactual literature, emphasizing its unique portrayal of a Britain under Nazi…

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Mentioned at 4:45
Altered Paths
Richard Evans

The host discusses the complexities of writing history and the role of counterfactuals, referencing Richard Evans' book 'Altered Paths' to highligh…

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Mentioned at 15:32
Counterfactuals
Jeffrey Parker and Philip Tetlock

The hosts discuss the concept of counterfactuals in history, exploring how alternative outcomes can shape our understanding of past events. They re…

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