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13. Stephen Fry and Troy

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Notable books mentioned: Trojan War by Stephen Fry, Iliad by Homer, Virgil, Harry Potter by JK Rowling

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Trojan War
Stephen Fry

The host mentions Stephen Fry's new book on the Trojan War to highlight its significance in the context of Greek mythology. They express excitement…

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Iliad
Homer

The host mentions the 'Iliad' to highlight the poetic and profound nature of Homer's depiction of the Trojan War and its characters. This discussio…

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Mentioned at 16:07
Virgil

The host discusses the challenges of retelling stories from a violent past, particularly focusing on the cultural context of characters from Virgil…

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13. Stephen Fry and Troy mentions Trojan War by Stephen Fry, Iliad by Homer, Virgil, and Harry Potter by JK Rowling with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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Stephen Fry is our guest on The Rest is History as he tells Tom Holland and Dominic Sandbrook about his enduring fascination with the Greek myths.
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  • The conversation centers on mythical elements in storytelling.
  • A second recurring theme is American childhood literature.
  • Referenced books include Trojan War by Stephen Fry and Iliad by Homer.
  • The strongest audience signal points to Fans of Greek mythology and literature and Readers interested in Greek mythology and literature.

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Deep Dive(6)Passing Reference(4)Highly Recommended(1)
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Fans of Greek mythology and literatureReaders interested in Greek mythology and literaturehistorians and literature enthusiastsParents and educators interested in children's literatureReaders interested in literary analysis and character developmentyoung adults and early teens

Books Mentioned

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Trojan War
Stephen Fry
Best for Fans of Greek mythology and literatureOften cited around Stephen Fry's new book

Stephen Fry has a new book out on the Trojan War, which is the third in a sequence of books that he's written about Greek myths.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Fans of Greek mythology and literature
Key quote: And you've got a new book about it.
The host mentions Stephen Fry's new book on the Trojan War to highlight its significance in the context of Greek mythology. They express excitement about revisiting the topic and the depth Fry brings as a Renaissance man.
ASIN: 0743264428
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Iliad
Homer
Best for Readers interested in Greek mythology and literatureOften cited around Trojan War and Greek myths

The excerpt discusses the complexities of characters in the context of the Trojan War, referencing the Iliad and its portrayal of Helen and other figures.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in Greek mythology and literature
Key quote: But actually, there's something quite genuinely noble and remarkable about the fighting, which I never thought I would find.
The host mentions the 'Iliad' to highlight the poetic and profound nature of Homer's depiction of the Trojan War and its characters. This discussion serves to illustrate the transition from myth to history in Stephen Fry's exploration of Greek narratives.
ASIN: B0FVGG44PN
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Best for historians and literature enthusiastsOften cited around retelling violent stories

Other sources like Virgil and Quintus Menaeus give good descriptions of terrible violence.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: historians and literature enthusiasts
Key quote: I think it's one of the real difficulties facing historians and retellers of any tale of the past.
The host discusses the challenges of retelling stories from a violent past, particularly focusing on the cultural context of characters from Virgil's works. They emphasize the difficulty modern audiences face in understanding the codes of honor and violence that were prevalent in ancient narratives.
ASIN: 383658509X
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Harry Potter
JK Rowling
Best for Parents and educators interested in children's literatureOften cited around mythical elements in storytelling

The mention of Harry Potter indicates its presence in the speaker's household, suggesting its significance in children's literature.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Parents and educators interested in children's literature
Key quote: I have a nine year old, so you are a constant presence. I mean, you're in our ears all the time through Harry Potter.
The host discusses the appeal of mythological elements in literature, comparing them to modern fantasy worlds. They mention 'Harry Potter' as a significant influence in their household, highlighting its mythic qualities and connection to children's imagination.
ASIN: B0F14PDX2Z
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The Hobbit
J.R.R. Tolkien
Best for Parents and educators interested in children's literatureOften cited around mythical elements in storytelling

The Hobbit is mentioned as part of the audio books that are frequently listened to in the speaker's home.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Parents and educators interested in children's literature
Key quote: I mean, you're, you're in our ears all the time through Harry Potter, through the Hobbit, the Sherlock Holmes audio books, which you did.
The host discusses the appeal of incorporating gods into narratives, comparing it to the authenticity found in ancient myths. They mention 'The Hobbit' as part of the mythic quality present in children's literature, suggesting that such stories resonate with deeper truths.
ASIN: B08C8XFQMN
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Sherlock Holmes
Arthur Conan Doyle
Best for Readers interested in literary analysis and character developmentOften cited around mythic quality of characters

Sherlock Holmes audio books are mentioned, indicating their role in the speaker's household listening habits.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in literary analysis and character development
Key quote: Sherlock Holmes has extraordinary, uh, reach through cultures all over the world.
The host discusses the mythic qualities of characters like Sherlock Holmes, comparing them to figures from Greek mythology. They explore how Holmes has transcended his original creation by Arthur Conan Doyle to become a universally recognized archetype.
ASIN: 0553212419
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Best for young adults and early teensOften cited around mythology and history

The speaker mentions reading Robert Graves, who wrote two versions of his collection, one for adults and a children's version as well.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: young adults and early teens
Key quote: I soon went to the adult one because I loved the detail of footnotes and all these extraordinary little side stories he told.
The host mentioned Robert Graves in the context of discussing how he transitioned from children's literature to more detailed adult versions of mythology. This reflects the host's own journey of understanding mythology and history through Graves' work.
ASIN: B0DQVWGWH9
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Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind cover
Best for Individuals interested in human evolution and history.Often cited around early mankind development

The speaker references having read Noah, who Val Harari, and thinking about early mankind and the development of early tools and language.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Individuals interested in human evolution and history.
Key quote: The speaker references having read Noah, who Val Harari, and thinking about early mankind and the development of early tools and language.
The host briefly mentions reading 'Sapiens' while reflecting on the evolution of early humans. This reference serves to highlight the significance of tools and language in human history.
ASIN: 8934972467
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Bullfinch's Mythology
Thomas Bullfinch
Best for Readers interested in children's literatureOften cited around children's literature

Thomas Bullfinch and Nathaniel Hawthorne, who both Nathaniel Hawthorne wrote his Tanglewood Tales for children, would be Thomas Bullfinch and Nathaniel Hawthorne, who both Nathaniel Hawthorne wrote his Tanglewood Tales for children.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Readers interested in children's literature
Key quote: Thomas Bullfinch and Nathaniel Hawthorne, who both Nathaniel Hawthorne wrote his Tanglewood Tales for children.
The host briefly mentions Thomas Bullfinch in relation to Nathaniel Hawthorne's work aimed at children. This reference highlights the connection between these two authors in the realm of children's literature.
ASIN: B000CAAWBU
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Tanglewood Tales
Nathaniel Hawthorne
Best for Parents and educators interested in children's literatureOften cited around American childhood literature

Nathaniel Hawthorne wrote his Tanglewood Tales for children, in which he told some of the great stories of Greek myth, particularly the sort of Ovid stories of transformations.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Parents and educators interested in children's literature
Key quote: a couple of big Americans in particular, who dominated American childhoods for over 100 years, would be Thomas Bullfinch and Nathaniel Hawthorne, who both Nathaniel Hawthorne wrote his Tanglewood Tales for children.
The host mentions 'Tanglewood Tales' as an example of how classic stories have been adapted for children. He highlights Nathaniel Hawthorne's contribution to children's literature through retelling Greek myths.
ASIN: B0D46G96D4
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Ilium
Dan Simmons
Best for Readers interested in mythology and science fictionOften cited around reinterpretation of myths

One of my favourite reinterpretations of the Trojan War is a science fiction novel by a guy called Dan Simmons. He wrote a book called Ilium, set in the shadow of Mount Olympus on Mars.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in mythology and science fiction
Key quote: Actually, one of my favourite reinterpretations of the Trojan War is a science fiction novel by a guy called Dan Simmons.
The host mentioned 'Ilium' by Dan Simmons as a notable reinterpretation of the Trojan War, highlighting its unique setting and the role of gods. This discussion emphasizes the enduring relevance of these myths and their ability to captivate audiences across different contexts and time periods.
ASIN: B000FC129Q
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Movies & Documentaries Mentioned

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Marathon Man

Confidence: 80%

Bill Goldman wrote the screenplay for Marathon Man, which is referenced in the discussion about storytelling.

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The Princess Bride

Confidence: 80%

Bill Goldman also wrote The Princess Bride, which is mentioned in the context of storytelling and character development.

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Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid

Confidence: 90%

Bill Goldman wrote Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid as a comedy, using tiny moments to remind the audience of the underlying theme of death.