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Show 69 - Twilight of the Aesir

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Show 69 - Twilight of the Aesir mentions The Forge of Christendom by Tom Holland, Children of Ash and Elm by Neil Price, Powers and Thrones by Dan Jones, and The Viking Wars by Max Adams with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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Tom Holland in his book The Forge of Christendom, which is great a book, by the way, he quotes a Norman poet from after this period who talks about,…

notwithstanding the traditional focus on viking aggression for much of the period the peoples of southern scandinavia were under near constant threat…

in his book powers and thrones dan jones sort of describes a little bit about you know what the carolingian empire descends into

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This show picks up where Dan's Thor's Angels show left off. In the early Middle Ages Pagan Germanic-language speakers like the Vikings are a dying breed. Many of their contemporaries wish they'd die faster.
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The Forge of Christendom
Tom Holland

The host references Tom Holland's book 'The Forge of Christendom' to highlight the brutal realities of Viking raids,…

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Children of Ash and Elm
Neil Price

The host references Neil Price's book to highlight a shift in understanding the Viking Age, emphasizing that the Dane…

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Powers and Thrones
Dan Jones

The host discusses the complexities of succession in the Carolingian Empire, particularly focusing on Louis the Pious…

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The Viking Wars
Max Adams

The host discusses the interconnectedness of Viking traders and raiders, emphasizing their dual roles in society. The…

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the art of war in the middle ages
Sir Charles Oman

The host references 'The Art of War in the Middle Ages' to provide insight into the perspective of the Danish kings d…

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river kings
kat jarman

The host mentions 'River Kings' by Kat Jarman to illustrate the interconnectedness of trade routes during the Viking…

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the Anglo-Saxon missionaries in Germany
C.H. Talbot

The host discusses the bravery of missionaries like St. Lebuin who risked their lives to convert pagan Saxons during…

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Viking History
Gwen Jones

The host discusses the transformation of the Viking Age and the geopolitical dynamics involving the Frankish Empire.…

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  • The conversation centers on Viking Age perspective.
  • A second recurring theme is Apache raiding practices.
  • Referenced books include The Forge of Christendom by Tom Holland and Children of Ash and Elm by Neil Price.
  • The strongest audience signal points to Historians and readers interested in medieval history and Historians and enthusiasts of Viking history.

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Historians and readers interested in medieval historyHistorians and enthusiasts of Viking historyHistory enthusiasts and students of medieval politicsHistorians and enthusiasts of medieval warfareHistorians and those interested in religious historyHistory enthusiasts and students of British history

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The Forge of Christendom cover
Best for Historians and readers interested in medieval historyOften cited around Viking raids and violence

Tom Holland in his book The Forge of Christendom, which is great a book, by the way, he quotes a Norman poet from after this period who talks about, you know, some of this activity.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Historians and readers interested in medieval history
Key quote: Tom Holland in his book The Forge of Christendom, which is great a book, by the way, he quotes a Norman poet from after this period who talks about, you know, some of this activity.
The host references Tom Holland's book 'The Forge of Christendom' to highlight the brutal realities of Viking raids, contrasting romanticized views with the harsh truths of violence and suffering. This book provides a deeper understanding of the historical context and the human condition during these tumultuous times.
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Children of Ash and Elm cover
Best for Historians and enthusiasts of Viking historyOften cited around Viking Age perspective

In the children of ash and elm historian neil price says this quote in the year 834 dorastad the wealthy emporium at the fork of the rhine about 100 kilometers from the dutch coast was attacked and burnt apparently by a force from denmark.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Historians and enthusiasts of Viking history
Key quote: notwithstanding the traditional focus on viking aggression for much of the period the peoples of southern scandinavia were under near constant threat from the belligerence of their christian neighbors
The host references Neil Price's book to highlight a shift in understanding the Viking Age, emphasizing that the Danes may have perceived themselves as threatened rather than merely aggressive raiders. This perspective challenges traditional narratives and provides a deeper context for the motivations behind Viking actions during this era.
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Powers and Thrones cover
Best for History enthusiasts and students of medieval politicsOften cited around Carolingian Empire succession

Historian Dan Jones in his book Powers and Thrones quotes another historian who estimates that 14 of all the silver pennies minted by the entire Frankish empire over the entire century of the 800s went to pay off the vikings just for protection money.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: History enthusiasts and students of medieval politics
Key quote: in his book powers and thrones dan jones sort of describes a little bit about you know what the carolingian empire descends into
The host discusses the complexities of succession in the Carolingian Empire, particularly focusing on Louis the Pious and the challenges he faced from his sons. The mention of 'Powers and Thrones' by Dan Jones serves to illustrate the chaotic political landscape and familial conflicts that characterized this period.
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The Viking Wars cover
Best for Historians and enthusiasts of Viking historyOften cited around Viking raids and traders

Historian Max Adams in his book The Viking Wars points out that if you went to one of these Viking raiders and tried to make the distinction with them between traders and raiders they might be baffled.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Historians and enthusiasts of Viking history
Key quote: Historian Max Adams in his book The Viking Wars points out that if you went to one of these Viking raiders and tried to make the distinction with them between traders and raiders they might be baffled.
The host discusses the interconnectedness of Viking traders and raiders, emphasizing their dual roles in society. They reference Max Adams' book 'The Viking Wars' to highlight how these figures operated as intelligence operatives within the regions they targeted.
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the art of war in the middle ages cover
Best for Historians and enthusiasts of medieval warfareOften cited around Charlemagne and the Saxons

A hundred years ago in his book the art of war in the middle ages, Sir Charles Oman describes the situation as it might have been seen from the Danish point of view.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Historians and enthusiasts of medieval warfare
Key quote: perhaps the first seeds of trouble were some of the most powerful when veda kent the saxon fled before the swords of the franks and took refuge in jutland
The host references 'The Art of War in the Middle Ages' to provide insight into the perspective of the Danish kings during the conflicts with Charlemagne. Sir Charles Oman’s analysis helps to illustrate how the Danes may have perceived themselves as threatened by the advancing Franks, rather than merely as aggressors.
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river kings
kat jarman
Best for Historians and enthusiasts of Viking historyOften cited around Scandinavian trade routes

The book describes the east as a place for entrepreneurs and follows the trade route of a semi-precious red stone from northern India to Viking-era Scandinavia.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Historians and enthusiasts of Viking history
Key quote: Kat Jarman in her book River Kings described the east as being a place for entrepreneurs and one of the throughput threads she follows in the work is the transportation of a semi-precious red stone that became all the rage in Scandinavia during the Viking Age.
The host mentions 'River Kings' by Kat Jarman to illustrate the interconnectedness of trade routes during the Viking Age. Jarman's work highlights how the demand for a semi-precious stone from India influenced Scandinavian trade and cultural exchanges.
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the Anglo-Saxon missionaries in Germany cover
Best for Historians and those interested in religious historyOften cited around missionaries in Saxony

The version I have comes from a book called the Anglo-Saxon missionaries in Germany, translated and edited by C.H. Talbot.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Historians and those interested in religious history
Key quote: Suddenly Lebuin appeared in the middle of the circle clothed in his priestly garments bearing a cross in his hands and a copy of the gospels in the crook of his arm raising his voice he cried listen to me listen I am the messenger of almighty God and to you Saxons I bring his command.
The host discusses the bravery of missionaries like St. Lebuin who risked their lives to convert pagan Saxons during Charlemagne's reign. The mention of the book highlights the historical significance and dramatic accounts of these missionaries' efforts in a hostile environment.
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Viking History cover
Viking History
Gwen Jones
Best for Historians and enthusiasts of Viking historyOften cited around Viking Age geopolitical shifts

This is the period where he really starts the conversation and everything we've already talked about is almost like prehistory which should tell you something.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Historians and enthusiasts of Viking history
Key quote: this outbreak of new violence on a higher level and more amplified scale can also be viewed as a sort of a response to a you know f around and find out kind of situation
The host discusses the transformation of the Viking Age and the geopolitical dynamics involving the Frankish Empire. They mention 'Viking History' to provide a deeper understanding of the historical context and motivations behind Viking actions during this period.
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A History of the English-Speaking Peoples cover
Best for History enthusiasts and students of British historyOften cited around Winston Churchill's portrayal of Alfred

The speaker recalls Churchill's portrayal of Alfred the Great in his historical work.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: History enthusiasts and students of British history
Key quote: this is winston churchill talking about alfred the great and it sounds like he could be talking about himself
The host discusses the significance of Alfred the Great in British history and how Winston Churchill's writing reflects a similar heroic narrative. Churchill's portrayal of Alfred in 'A History of the English-Speaking Peoples' is highlighted as a powerful example of historical interpretation.
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the bright ages cover
the bright ages
matthew gabriel and david m perry
Best for Historians and enthusiasts of Viking historyOften cited around historical trading networks

The historians describe the interconnected trade routes during the Viking Age and how the situation in the east differed from that in the west.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Historians and enthusiasts of Viking history
Key quote: the story in western and central asia plays out very differently than in western europe because the pre-viking situation was so distinct
The host mentions 'The Bright Ages' to highlight how historical events, particularly the trading activities of Scandinavians, were often overlooked in traditional narratives. The book provides insights into the interconnectedness of trade routes and the economic dynamics of the Viking era.
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Strategicon cover
Best for Military historians and enthusiastsOften cited around pre-modern military strategies

The Strategicon is a handbook for military historians, explaining various military strategies and advice on dealing with different enemies.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Military historians and enthusiasts
Key quote: Many of you, I'm sure, have read Maurice's Strategicon because it is a rather singular piece of pre-modern military gear for people like yours truly, I guess you could say.
The host mentions 'Strategicon' to highlight its significance as a unique military handbook that offers insights into pre-modern warfare. This book is valuable for understanding the cultural and tactical diversity of ancient military practices, which contrasts sharply with modern homogenized military strategies.
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A History of the Vikings cover
Best for History enthusiasts and those interested in Viking cultureOften cited around Ragnar Lothbrok and Vikings

The speaker references Gwen Jones' description of the Viking era and Ragnar's involvement in it.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: History enthusiasts and those interested in Viking culture
Key quote: when I was growing up I was reading things like a history of the vikings by gwen jones
The host references 'A History of the Vikings' by Gwen Jones to provide a historical context for the legendary figure Ragnar Lothbrok and his impact on Viking history. The book offers insights into the transformation of Viking raids into organized expeditions, highlighting the complexities of historical narratives versus popular culture.
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the varangians, god's holy fire cover
Best for history enthusiasts and scholarsOften cited around historical Viking raids

The historian pieces together the events surrounding the 860 invasion of Constantinople by the Rus.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: history enthusiasts and scholars
Key quote: Jacobson points out a couple of things, though, including the fact that there's a certain kind of terror and one we won't experience in the modern world, but that goes back to the Laguna Beach example we used earlier of the ability in the pre-modern world to find yourself attacked as in wartime by somebody you don't even know.
The host mentions Jacobson's book to highlight the intricate detective work involved in reconstructing historical events, particularly the Viking raids on Constantinople. Jacobson's analysis provides valuable insights into the chaos and fear experienced during these attacks, making the historical narrative more engaging.
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Vikings at War
Kim Hjardar and Vigard Vika
Best for History enthusiasts and those interested in Viking cultureOften cited around Vikings in Ireland

The authors describe the expectations of free men in the Viking Age regarding weaponry and defense obligations.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: History enthusiasts and those interested in Viking culture
Key quote: the vikings were both willing and unwilling participants in the never ending irish power game
The host discusses the impact of Viking settlements in Ireland, highlighting how their presence transformed local dynamics. They reference 'Vikings at War' to illustrate the complexities of Viking interactions with Irish kingdoms during this period.
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Western Apache Raiding and Warfare cover
Best for Historians and those interested in cultural anthropologyOften cited around Apache raiding practices

Palmer Valor described raiding as a way of life for the Apaches, chronicled in a book about their raiding practices.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Historians and those interested in cultural anthropology
Key quote: Our people used to go on raids down into Mexico to bring back horses, mules, burros and cattle.
The host references the book 'Western Apache Raiding and Warfare' to illustrate the cultural significance of raiding in Apache society, drawing parallels to Viking practices. The mention of Palmer Valor's firsthand account provides a historical perspective on how raiding was perceived as a means of livelihood.
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Neil Price cover
Best for Historians and enthusiasts of Viking historyOften cited around Viking Age perspective

Neil Price's book is referenced in relation to the economic impact of signing up for raids during the Viking Age.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Historians and enthusiasts of Viking history
Key quote: notwithstanding the traditional focus on viking aggression for much of the period the peoples of southern scandinavia were under near constant threat from the belligerence of their christian neighbors
The host mentions Neil Price's book to highlight a shift in understanding the Viking Age, suggesting that the Scandinavians may have perceived themselves as the threatened party rather than mere aggressors. Price's work provides a nuanced view of the social pressures faced by these peoples during the era of Charlemagne's expansion.
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Charlemagne, father of a continent cover
Best for Historians and students of European historyOften cited around Charlemagne's military campaigns

Historian Alessandro Barbaro sets up the conflict this way, describing the ferocious war against the Saxons.

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Sentiment: Critical Analysis
For: Historians and students of European history
Key quote: It was a ferocious war in a country with little or no civilization, with neither roads nor cities and entirely covered with forests and marshland.
The host discusses the brutal tactics employed by Charlemagne during his wars against the Saxons, highlighting the intertwining of his geopolitical and religious ambitions. The mention of Alessandro Barbaro's book serves to illustrate the historical context and the severe consequences of Charlemagne's actions.
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Vikings: An Encyclopedia of Conflict, Invasions and Raids
Tristan Mueller Volmer and Kirsten Wolf
Best for Individuals interested in Viking historyOften cited around historical timelines of Vikings

I took this timeline from the book Vikings: An Encyclopedia of Conflict, Invasions and Raids by Tristan Mueller Volmer and Kirsten Wolf.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Individuals interested in Viking history
Key quote: I took this timeline from the book Vikings: An Encyclopedia of Conflict, Invasions and Raids by Tristan Mueller Volmer and Kirsten Wolf.
The host briefly mentions the book as a source for a timeline related to Viking history. It serves as a reference point for understanding the context of Viking invasions and conflicts.
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The Age of Faith
Will Durant
Best for History enthusiasts and students of medieval studiesOften cited around Viking Age historical context

The speaker mentions Will Durant's work discussing Alfred the Great's life and his military engagements.

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Sentiment: Critical Analysis
For: History enthusiasts and students of medieval studies
Key quote: Durant writing in 1950 giving you a tiny little slice of you know how bad the neighborhood has become says this quote after the of lewis the pious these raids became great expeditions with fleets of over a hundred vessels fully manned with oarsmen slash warriors in the 9th and 10th centuries.
The host references 'The Age of Faith' by Will Durant to highlight the historical significance of the Viking raids during the 9th and 10th centuries. Durant's work is noted for its ability to compress complex historical events into a digestible format, making it relevant despite its age.
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Grapes of Wrath
John Steinbeck
Best for listeners interested in historical economic trendsOften cited around economic migration patterns

The mention of the Grapes of Wrath relates to the Oklahoman people showing up in the West Coast to pick fruit due to economic incentives.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: listeners interested in historical economic trends
Key quote: it reminds you a little, you know, of, like, the Grapes of Wrath and the Oklahoman people showing up in the West Coast to pick fruit because there are jobs there, right?
The host mentions 'Grapes of Wrath' to draw a parallel between the economic motivations of people during the gold rush and the Oklahomans migrating to the West Coast for work. This reference highlights how economic incentives can drive large movements of people in search of better opportunities.
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Tom Holland in his book The Forge of Christendom, which is great a book, by the way, he quotes a Norman poet from after this period who talks about,…
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notwithstanding the traditional focus on viking aggression for much of the period the peoples of southern scandinavia were under near constant threat…
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in his book powers and thrones dan jones sort of describes a little bit about you know what the carolingian empire descends into
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The Forge of Christendom
Tom Holland

The host references Tom Holland's book 'The Forge of Christendom' to highlight the brutal realities of Viking raids, contrasting romanticized views…

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Children of Ash and Elm
Neil Price

The host references Neil Price's book to highlight a shift in understanding the Viking Age, emphasizing that the Danes may have perceived themselve…

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The host discusses the complexities of succession in the Carolingian Empire, particularly focusing on Louis the Pious and the challenges he faced f…

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