Show 72 - Mania for Subjugation II

Adrian Goldsworthy

Adrian Goldsworthy in his book Philip and Alexander sort of lays out the situation pointing out that trying to disengage from an enemy you're in cont…

A.B. Bosworth

The first few days of Alexander's reign must have been among the most critical of his career.

Peter Green

Peter Green in Alexander of Macedonia writes, quote Meanwhile, a vast horde of Gitae nomads Some 4,000 horsemen in between two and three times that n…

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Is it safe to hand control of the deadliest army in the world to a 20-year old? If you are Thracian, Triballian, Illyrian or Theban, the answer is definitely no. Alexander becomes king and fights off threats to his rule in all directions.

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Adrian Goldsworthy

The host discusses the complexities of Alexander's military strategies as described in Adrian Goldsworthy's book 'Phi…

A.B. Bosworth

The host references A.B. Bosworth's 'Conquest and Empire' to highlight the critical and tumultuous early days of Alex…

Peter Green

The host discusses the concept of 'pothos' as introduced by historian Arrian in relation to Alexander's character. Pe…

Herodotus' histories

Andrea L. Purvis

The host discusses Herodotus' insights into the Thracians and their historical context, emphasizing the limitations o…

The Tomb of Philip

The host mentions 'The Tomb of Philip' to highlight the ongoing debates about the archaeological findings related to…

Resistance to Alexander the Great

Voldemar Heckel

The host discusses the complex interactions between Alexander the Great and the Celtic tribes, highlighting their mut…

In the Path of Conquest

Voldemar Heckel

The host references Voldemar Heckel's book to illustrate the complex interactions between Alexander the Great and the…

Plutarch's Lives

The host discusses the contrasting reactions of the Athenians to Philip II's death, highlighting their initial honor…

Celtic tribes and Alexander(2)Alexander the Great's rise(1)Alexander the Great's story(1)Alexander's early reign(1)Alexander's military maneuvers(1)Alexander's psychological makeup(1)Analysis of Olympias(1)Athens reaction to Philip's death(1)

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Referenced books include Philip and Alexander by Adrian Goldsworthy and Conquest and Empire by A.B. Bosworth.
The strongest audience signal points to History enthusiasts and military strategy students and Historians and enthusiasts of ancient history.

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Adrian Goldsworthy

Best for History enthusiasts and military strategy studentsOften cited around Alexander's military maneuvers

“Adrian Goldsworthy in his book Philip and Alexander sort of lays out the situation, pointing out that trying to disengage from an enemy you're in contact with is one of the most difficult things in all military maneuvers.”

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Trigger: Alexander's military maneuvers

For: History enthusiasts and military strategy students

Key quote: “Adrian Goldsworthy in his book Philip and Alexander sort of lays out the situation pointing out that trying to disengage from an enemy you're in contact with is one of the most difficult things in all military maneuvers.”

The host discusses the complexities of Alexander's military strategies as described in Adrian Goldsworthy's book 'Philip and Alexander'. The book highlights the challenges of disengaging from an enemy while surrounded, emphasizing the tactical difficulties faced by Alexander during his campaigns.

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A.B. Bosworth

Best for Historians and enthusiasts of ancient historyOften cited around Alexander's early reign

“A.B. Bosworth discusses the critical early days of Alexander's reign, emphasizing the turmoil and the actions of Alexander and his friends as they arm themselves and occupy the palace.”

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Trigger: Alexander's early reign

For: Historians and enthusiasts of ancient history

Key quote: “The first few days of Alexander's reign must have been among the most critical of his career.”

The host references A.B. Bosworth's 'Conquest and Empire' to highlight the critical and tumultuous early days of Alexander's reign following Philip's assassination. Bosworth's insights provide a framework for understanding the political instability and power struggles that ensued during this pivotal moment in history.

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Peter Green

Best for Historians and enthusiasts of Alexander the GreatOften cited around Alexander's psychological makeup

“Peter Green in Alexander of Macedonia writes about the Gitae tribesmen appearing on the far bank of the Danube, describing their numbers and the situation with Alexander.”

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Trigger: Alexander's psychological makeup

For: Historians and enthusiasts of Alexander the Great

Key quote: “Peter Green in Alexander of Macedonia writes, quote Meanwhile, a vast horde of Gitae nomads Some 4,000 horsemen in between two and three times that number on foot Had appeared on the far side of the Danube Yet it was now, despite their presence That Alexander found himself seized by a quote-end-quote Irresistible urge to cross the river.”

The host discusses the concept of 'pothos' as introduced by historian Arrian in relation to Alexander's character. Peter Green's book 'Alexander of Macedonia' is referenced to highlight how this longing is unique to Alexander and influences his actions.

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Herodotus' histories

Andrea L. Purvis

Best for Historians and enthusiasts of ancient historyOften cited around Herodotus and Thracians

“The speaker references their translation of Herodotus' histories, discussing the Thracians and their characteristics as described by Herodotus.”

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Sentiment: Deep Dive

Trigger: Herodotus and Thracians

For: Historians and enthusiasts of ancient history

Key quote: “The Thracians are the largest nation in all the world, at least after the Indians.”

The host discusses Herodotus' insights into the Thracians and their historical context, emphasizing the limitations of knowledge in ancient times. This mention serves to illustrate the complexities of understanding ancient peoples and their interactions with one another.

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The Tomb of Philip

Best for Historians and archaeology enthusiastsOften cited around Alexander the Great's rise

“In December 2023 a journal of archaeological science published a book called The Tomb of Philip and it's a book that's been published in the article made a pretty darn good case that he's in tomb one.”

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Trigger: Alexander the Great's rise

For: Historians and archaeology enthusiasts

Key quote: “a journal of archaeological science published a book called the tomb of philip and it's a book that's been published in the article made a pretty darn good case that he's in tomb one”

The host mentions 'The Tomb of Philip' to highlight the ongoing debates about the archaeological findings related to Philip's burial site. This book provides critical insights into the implications of misidentifying remains, which could lead to incorrect historical conclusions about significant figures like Alexander.

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Resistance to Alexander the Great

Voldemar Heckel

Best for Historians and enthusiasts of ancient military historyOften cited around Celtic tribes and Alexander

“Heckel's book points out that this whole encounter shows how arrogant the young 20-year-old king is.”

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Trigger: Celtic tribes and Alexander

For: Historians and enthusiasts of ancient military history

Key quote: “As Voldemar Heckel says, the entire affair just shows how arrogant Alexander is.”

The host discusses the complex interactions between Alexander the Great and the Celtic tribes, highlighting their mutual perceptions and misunderstandings. Voldemar Heckel's book is referenced to illustrate Alexander's arrogance and the Celts' self-assuredness during these encounters.

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In the Path of Conquest

Voldemar Heckel

Best for Historians and enthusiasts of ancient military historyOften cited around Celtic tribes and Alexander

“Heckel's book points out that this whole encounter shows how arrogant the young 20-year-old king is.”

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Trigger: Celtic tribes and Alexander

For: Historians and enthusiasts of ancient military history

Key quote: “Voldemar Heckel in his book In the Path of Conquest Resistance to the Empire points out that this whole encounter as transmitted by Arian shows how arrogant the young 20-year-old king is.”

The host references Voldemar Heckel's book to illustrate the complex interactions between Alexander the Great and the Celtic tribes. The discussion highlights the arrogance perceived on both sides during their encounters, emphasizing the historical significance of these relationships.

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Plutarch's Lives

Best for Historians and students of ancient philosophyOften cited around Athens reaction to Philip's death

“In Plutarch's lives, when he's talking about the life of Demosthenes, he brings this moment up. Plutarch is writing a book of sort of moral judgment.”

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Trigger: Athens reaction to Philip's death

For: Historians and students of ancient philosophy

Key quote: “For my own part, I cannot say that the behavior of the Athenians on this occasion was wise or honorable.”

The host discusses the contrasting reactions of the Athenians to Philip II's death, highlighting their initial honor towards him and the subsequent celebration of his demise. Plutarch's Lives is referenced to illustrate the moral judgment on the Athenians' behavior, emphasizing their hypocrisy in celebrating a victory over a leader who had shown them clemency.

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Arian

Martin Hammond

Best for Historians and enthusiasts of ancient historyOften cited around Alexander the Great's story

“In my Martin Hammond translation of Arian, he describes the moment ambassadors start arriving to Alexander.”

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Trigger: Alexander the Great's story

For: Historians and enthusiasts of ancient history

Key quote: “In the introduction to the landmark Arian, which we're just about to introduce as a source in this story, Cambridge classicist, Paul Cartlidge explains that everyone's got their own version of Alexander because they fill in the gaps their own way and have throughout history.”

The host mentions 'Arian' to highlight the varying interpretations of Alexander the Great's life and actions. The book serves as a source that illustrates how historians fill in the gaps of Alexander's story, leading to different portrayals of him throughout history.

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Pamela Mensch

Best for Historians and enthusiasts of ancient historyOften cited around interpretations of Alexander

“The mention of the 'wonderful landmark Arian' suggests a specific edition or translation of Arian's work.”

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Sentiment: Deep Dive

Trigger: interpretations of Alexander

For: Historians and enthusiasts of ancient history

The host mentions 'Landmark Arian' to highlight the varying interpretations of Alexander the Great's character and actions throughout history. Paul Cartlidge's introduction emphasizes that historians fill in the gaps of Alexander's story differently, leading to diverse portrayals of him.

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Alexander the Great: Historical Sources in Translation

Best for Readers interested in historical primary sources.Often cited around compilation of sources

“I'm enjoying quite a bit it's not really a book it's a compilation of sources called Alexander the Great Historical Sources in Translation.”

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Trigger: compilation of sources

For: Readers interested in historical primary sources.

Key quote: “I'm enjoying quite a bit it's not really a book it's a compilation of sources called Alexander the Great Historical Sources in Translation.”

The host briefly mentions the book as a compilation rather than a traditional narrative. It seems to serve as a resource for those interested in primary sources about Alexander the Great.

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Olympias

Elizabeth Carney

Best for Readers interested in historical analysisOften cited around Analysis of Olympias

“In her wonderful book of Olympius breaks down that whole point did she do it didn't she do it if she did do it what did they think about it.”

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Sentiment: Passing Reference

Trigger: Analysis of Olympias

For: Readers interested in historical analysis

Key quote: “In her wonderful book of Olympius breaks down that whole point did she do it didn't she do it if she did do it what did they think about it.”

The host briefly mentions 'Olympias' to highlight the book's exploration of the uncertainties surrounding the historical figure. It raises questions about her actions and the perceptions of those around her.

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“The discussion references a TV movie where William Shatner played Alexander, highlighting the connection between Captain Kirk and Alexander the Great.”