
#1963 - Michael Shellenberger
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#1963 - Michael Shellenberger mentions The Real Anthony Fauci by Robert Kennedy Jr., The Revolt of the Public by Martin Gurri, The War on Terror, and Anti-Fragile by Nassim Taleb with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.
It's a terrifying book.
He argues that really all of this is just the elites freaking out about the rise of the Internet and that the response is very similar to the respons…
It became clear to us, you know, over time that the US government had turned its propaganda and disinformation campaigns that had been waging abroad.
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The host mentions 'The Real Anthony Fauci' to highlight the alarming claims made about Fauci's handling of public hea…
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- Referenced books include The Real Anthony Fauci by Robert Kennedy Jr. and The Revolt of the Public by Martin Gurri.
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“The discussion references Robert Kennedy Jr.'s book, which addresses the AIDS crisis and critiques the handling of public health issues, suggesting it reflects unchecked power and influence.”
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“The excerpt discusses Martin Gurri's arguments about the elites' reactions to the rise of the Internet, comparing it to the historical response to the printing press.”
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“It became clear to us, you know, over time that the US government had turned its propaganda and disinformation campaigns that had been waging abroad. It turned them against the American people.”
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“The speaker discusses Nassim Taleb's book 'Anti-Fragile' and its insights, despite finding him annoying on Twitter.”
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“The speaker references a book by Peter Zion that discusses an apocalyptic view of the world and the implications of the U.S. potentially withdrawing military support for allies.”
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“John McWhorter's book Woke Racism argues that wokeism is a religion, focusing on the obsession with race.”
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“The speaker mentions returning to Christianity while working on the book 'Apocalypse Never' and reflects on the themes of love and forgiveness.”
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“They create something called the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency within the Department of Homeland Security to supposedly protect the media environment from foreign influence.”
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“The speaker mentions sending 'Life in Weeks' to censors to provoke thought about their actions and the impact of censorship.”
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“The thing that really freaked me out was this thing that Aspen Institute, a call, it's called a tabletop exercise, and it was actually a Zoom call, to role play how to deal with a Russian hack and leak around Hunter Biden.”
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“The Pentagon Papers is this famous episode, it was Steven Spielberg made a whole movie about it, where the Washington Post and New York Times published these internal Pentagon documents showing that the US government was losing the war in Vietnam.”
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“The excerpt references Abigail Schreier's book on transgenderism as a social contagion, discussing its implications and the reactions it has garnered.”
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“Douglas Murray's work discusses the obsession with gender as a symptom of civilizations in decline.”
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“They create something called the Foreign Influence Task Force with the FBI to basically start policing domestic speech on these platforms.”
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“Walter Isaacson in his biography of Steve Jobs, he was like, look, Steve Jobs was just too much of an asshole.”
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“John Podesta, who's the chair of her campaign. He runs the most powerful progressive, frankly, propaganda organization in the world.”
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“You have the Electronic Freedom Foundation, I'm sorry, Electronic Frontier Foundation. You have a libertarian ethos.”
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“The speaker references a colleague of Andrew Huberman who wrote 'Dopamine Nation', although they struggle to remember the author's name.”
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“A new book mentioned in relation to the Tavistock Gender Clinic and the changing views on gender issues in Europe.”
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“I was a victim of the Hunter Biden laptop disinformation. I thought that, I voted for Biden. I thought that it was a, I thought that that laptop was Russian disinformation.”
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“Then you get, the big event is Brexit, 2016, Trump's election in 2016, and the establishment just freaks out.”
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“The New York Post story that they censored also had not violated their terms of service.”
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“The mention of Dune refers to its solution of banning AI and using mentats for calculations instead.”
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“The mention of Robert Kennedy Jr. is in the context of discussing the impact of his writing on public perception regarding vaccines.”
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The host mentions 'The Real Anthony Fauci' to highlight the alarming claims made about Fauci's handling of public health crises, particularly the A…

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The host discusses how the US government's propaganda efforts, initially focused abroad during the War on Terror, have shifted to influence domesti…
Movies & Documentaries Mentioned
What is a Woman?
“The mention of the movie 'What is a Woman?' highlights the ongoing debate about gender identity and societal perceptions of women.”
The Phenomenon
“The speaker expresses admiration for 'The Phenomenon', describing it as humbling and significant in understanding UFOs.”
Breakfast Club
“The discussion revolves around the cultural impact of the 'Breakfast Club' and its relevance to Gen X spirit.”
Atomic Hope
“My friend Frankie Fenton has a movie coming out called Atomic Hope.”
James Fox
“The speaker references a documentary by James Fox that discusses UFO sightings in Washington, D.C. during 1952.”
Oliver Stone's documentary about nuclear power
“He has a documentary about nuclear power.”