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#263 Land's Polaroid: A Company and the Man Who Invented It

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Notable books mentioned: Land's Polaroid, A Company and the Man Who Invented It by Peter Wensberg, Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson, Insisting on the Impossible by Edwin Land, Tuxedo Park by Alfred Loomis

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Land's Polaroid, A Company and the Man Who Invented It
Peter Wensberg

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Steve Jobs
Walter Isaacson

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Insisting on the Impossible
Edwin Land

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#263 Land's Polaroid: A Company and the Man Who Invented It mentions Land's Polaroid, A Company and the Man Who Invented It by Peter Wensberg, Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson, Insisting on the Impossible by Edwin Land, and Tuxedo Park by Alfred Loomis with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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What I learned from rereading Land's Polaroid: A Company and the Man Who Invented It by Peter C. Wensberg. ---- Get access to the World’s Most Valuable Notebook for Founders at Founders Notes.com ---- [0:01] Why is Polaroid a nutty place? To start with, it’s run by a man who has more brains than anyone has a right to. He doesn’t believe anything until he’s discovered it and proved it for himself. Because of that, he never looks at things the way you and I do. He has no small talk. He has no preconceived notions. He starts from the beginning with everything. That’s why we have a camera that takes pictures and develops them right away. [1:33] More books on Edwin Land: Insisting on The Impossible: The Life of Edwin Land by Victor McElheny The Instant Image: Edwin Land and the Polaroid Experienceby Mark Olshaker A Triumph of Genius: Edwin Land, Polaroid, and the Kodak Patent War by Ronald Fierstein Instant: The Story of Polaroid by Chris Bonanos [2:18] “Then I read something that one of my heroes, Edwin Land of Polaroid, said about the importance of people who could stand at the intersection of humanities and sciences, and I decided that’s what I wanted to do.” — Steve Jobs: The Exclusive Biography by Walter Isaacson (Founders #214) [5:17] This guy started one of the great technology monopolies and ran it for 50 years. [7:35] He lived his life more intensely than the rest of us. [8:53] His interest in our reactions was minimal — polite, sometimes kind, but limited by the great drain of energy necessary to sustain his own part. [9:30] He never argued his ideas. If people didn’t believe in them, he ignored those people. —A Mind at Play: How Claude Shannon Invented the Information Age by Jimmy Soni and Rob Goodman (Founders #95) Loomis was not someone you could argue with. He would listen patiently to an opposing opinion. But his consideration was nothing more than that-an act of politeness on his part.” — Tuxedo Park: A Wall Street Tycoon and The Secret Palace of Science That Changed The Course of World War II by Jennet Conant (Founders #143) [11:40] Right before he introduces the most important product he ever makes — he is in a fight for his life. There's a good chance that Polaroid is going to be bankrupt. [14:29] The parallel to Steve Jobs is striking. Edwin Land —like jobs — had to turn around the company he founded before they ran out of money! [15:02] At 37 he had achieved everything to which he aspired except success. [15:32] Against The Odds: An Autobiography by James Dyson (Founders #200) [22:48] The heroes of your heroes become your heroes. [23:39] Bill Gates would later tell a friend he went to Harvard to learn from people smarter than he was —and left disappointed. —Hard Drive: Bill Gates and the Making of the Microsoft Empire by James Wallace and Jim Erickson (Founders #140) [27:22] The young hurl themselves into vast problems that have troubled the world's best thinkers, believing that they can find a solution. It is well that they should for, from time to time, one of them does. — Autobiography of a Restless Mind: Reflections on the Human Condition Volume 2 by Dee Hock. (Founders #261) [29:30] He concentrated ferociously on his quest. [29:43] We live in the age of infinite distraction. [30:03] My whole life has been spent trying to teach people that intense concentration for hour after hour can bring out in people resources they didn't know they had. [30:29] Among all the components and Land's intellectual arsenal, the chief one seems to be simple concentration. — The Instant Image: Edwin Land and The Polaroid Experience by Mark Olshaker. (Founders #132) [41:50] A Landian question took nothing for granted, accepted no common knowledge, tested the cliche, and treated conventional wisdom as an oxymoron. [42:44] A Triumph of Genius: Edwin Land, Polaroid, and the Kodak Patent War by Ronald Fierstein (Founders #134) [48:33] They had no alternative but to succeed with the camera. Everyone left at Polaroid knew that at the present rate of decline the business, the company, and their jobs would not survive 1947. [55:45] Smith estimated that throughout the eighties he spent at least four hours a day reading. He found he relied quite heavily on his own vision, backed by assimilating information from many different disciplines all at once. “The common trait of people who supposedly have vision is that they spend a lot of time reading and gathering information, and then synthesize it until they come up with an idea." — Overnight Success: Federal Express and Frederick Smith, Its Renegade Creator by Vance Trimble (Founders #151) [59:05] If you’re not good, Jeff will chew you up and spit you out. And if you’re good, he will jump on your back and ride you into the ground. — The Everything Store: Jeff Bezos and the Age of Amazon by Brad Stone. (Founders #179) [1:02:24] They were among the first of the park's attractions to be finished, but the pressure of time was already weighing on everyone. One day John Hench stopped by to check the progress on the coaches and had an idea, which he brought to his boss. "Why don't we just leave the leather straps off, Walt? The people are never going to appreciate all the close-up detail." Walt Disney treated Hench to a tart little lecture: "You're being a poor communicator. People are okay, don't you ever forget that. They will respond to it. They will appreciate it." Hench didn't argue. "We put the best darn leather straps on that stagecoach you've ever seen." — Disney’s Land: Walt Disney and the Invention of the Amusement Park That Changed the World by Richard Snow. (Founders #158) [1:05:53] There is no such thing as group originality or group creativity or group perspicacity. I do believe wholeheartedly in the individual capacity for greatness. Profundity and originality are attributes of single, if not singular, minds. [1:10:32] There's nothing more refreshing than thinking for a few minutes with your eyes closed. [1:11:00] The present is the past biting into the future. ---- Get access to the World’s Most Valuable Notebook for Founders at Founders Notes.com ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast ---- Founders Notes gives you the ability to tap into the collective knowledge of history's greatest entrepreneurs on demand. Use it to supplement the decisions you make in your work. Get access to Founders Notes here. ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. 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Highly Recommended(6)Deep Dive(5)Passing Reference(1)
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Entrepreneurs and innovatorsEntrepreneurs and aspiring innovatorsReaders interested in biographies and independent thinkersIndividuals interested in entrepreneurship and self-directed learningAspiring inventors and scientistsEntrepreneurs and innovators seeking inspiration

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Land's Polaroid, A Company and the Man Who Invented It cover
Best for Entrepreneurs and innovatorsOften cited around Edwin Land's influence

This is an excerpt from the book I'm going to talk to you about today, which is Land's Polaroid, A Company and the Man Who Invented It, written by Peter Wensberg.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Entrepreneurs and innovators
Key quote: I want to convince as many entrepreneurs as I can to study Edwin Land.
The host emphasizes the significance of Edwin Land's contributions to innovation and entrepreneurship, particularly highlighting his influence on Steve Jobs. This book serves as a compelling introduction to Land's unconventional thinking and the impact he had on the tech industry.
ASIN: 0395421144
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Steve Jobs
Walter Isaacson
Best for Entrepreneurs and innovatorsOften cited around Influence of Edwin Land

I just want to read something from the Steve Jobs biography from Walter Isaacson, just to cover this real quick.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Entrepreneurs and innovators
Key quote: If Steve Jobs spent time, his very valuable time, studying Edwin Land, why wouldn't you or I?
The host emphasizes the significant impact Edwin Land had on Steve Jobs, suggesting that understanding Land's work can provide valuable insights for entrepreneurs. He believes that reading about Land is essential for anyone looking to innovate, particularly highlighting a specific biography as the best starting point.
ASIN: B07ZMKXMTG
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Insisting on the Impossible cover
Best for Entrepreneurs and aspiring innovatorsOften cited around Edwin Land's influence

I was telling everybody, hey, read Insisting on the Impossible. It is the most comprehensive biography of Edwin Land by far.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Entrepreneurs and aspiring innovators
Key quote: For the longest time, I was telling everybody, hey, read Insisting on the Impossible.
The host emphasizes the significance of studying Edwin Land, particularly due to his influence on Steve Jobs. He mentions 'Insisting on the Impossible' as a comprehensive biography but suggests a more accessible alternative for newcomers.
ASIN: 0738201901
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Tuxedo Park
Alfred Loomis
Best for Readers interested in biographies and independent thinkersOften cited around importance of biographies

Claude Shannon, covered him all the way back on Founders No. 95, and Alfred Lee Loomis from the fantastic biography Tuxedo Park.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in biographies and independent thinkers
Key quote: Their life was going to go in the direction of, as a result of their own independent thinking.
The host mentions 'Tuxedo Park' to emphasize the significance of independent thinking as demonstrated by its subject, Alfred Lee Loomis. By comparing Loomis and others to Edwin Land, the host illustrates how these figures navigated their paths despite challenges, highlighting the value of understanding their stories through biographies.
ASIN: 0449214060
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Founders 140 cover
Best for Individuals interested in entrepreneurship and self-directed learningOften cited around self-education and inspiration

The podcast mentions this book as a biography of Bill Gates that covers the first 35 years of his life.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals interested in entrepreneurship and self-directed learning
Key quote: If you remember, I think it was Founders 140, the biography of Bill Gates that I read, which is fantastic because it just covers the first 35 years of his life.
The host mentions 'Founders 140' to highlight how Bill Gates, like Land, sought knowledge from those he considered smarter than himself but left Harvard feeling disappointed. This book provides insight into Gates' early life and his perspective on self-education, which resonates with Land's journey of learning from historical figures in science and innovation.
ASIN: B0CM411F67
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Physical Optics
Robert W. Wood
Best for Aspiring inventors and scientistsOften cited around self-education and influence

Edwin Land mentions this book as one of the most important he ever found, reading it nightly like a religious text.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Aspiring inventors and scientists
Key quote: I was fortunate enough to acquire Robert W. Wood's book, Physical Optics, which I read nightly the way our forefathers read the Bible.
The host mentions 'Physical Optics' as a pivotal book that Land read nightly, emphasizing its profound impact on his understanding of creativity and invention. This book served as a guiding light for Land as he sought to make his own significant contributions to science.
ASIN: 101586452X
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Instant Image cover
Best for Entrepreneurs and innovators seeking inspirationOften cited around Edwin Land's concentration

The book is referenced as a biography of Edwin Land, containing a quote about the importance of concentration in his intellectual arsenal.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Entrepreneurs and innovators seeking inspiration
Key quote: Among all the components of lands, intellectual arsenal, the chief, one seems to be simple concentration.
The host discusses Edwin Land's intense focus and concentration as a key to his success, referencing the book 'Instant Image' to highlight this trait. The mention of the book serves to underscore the importance of concentration in achieving significant breakthroughs in innovation.
ASIN: 0812824423
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Best for Entrepreneurs and business studentsOften cited around Edwin Land's business strategy

It doesn't talk about it in this book, but in another book I read from Land, they have J.P. saying, hey, listen, I'm too old to understand this stuff.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Entrepreneurs and business students
Key quote: It doesn't talk about it in this book, but in another book I read from Land, they have J.P. saying, hey, listen, I'm too old to understand this stuff.
The host briefly mentions another book that discusses Edwin Land's interactions with J.P. Morgan and the challenges he faced in building his company. This reference serves to highlight the importance of strategic relationships in achieving business success.
ASIN: B0CNSDXQMN
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Best for Founders and entrepreneurs interested in innovation and patent lawOften cited around Edwin Land's innovation process

There's an entire book that I read. It's very fascinating because it focuses on this, this huge patent infringement case between Kodak and Polaroid, which Polaroid wins.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Founders and entrepreneurs interested in innovation and patent law
Key quote: There's an entire book I read, it's very fascinating because it focuses on this, this huge patent.
The host mentions 'A Triumph of Genius' to highlight the significant patent infringement case between Kodak and Polaroid, emphasizing Edwin Land's innovative mindset and meticulous documentation. This book illustrates the importance of creativity and persistence in overcoming challenges in the field of instant photography.
ASIN: B00TJ3EDL6
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Instant: The Story of Polaroid cover
Best for Individuals interested in business innovation and photography historyOften cited around Polaroid product demonstration

I'm also reading Instant, the story of Polaroid, that is going to be the next podcast in instant, the story of Polaroid.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in business innovation and photography history
Key quote: He actually underestimated, if I'm not mistaken, they sold 900,000 cameras in five years.
The host discusses the remarkable success of Polaroid's instant cameras, highlighting the initial skepticism about sales predictions made by founder Edwin Land. This leads to a deeper exploration of the book 'Instant: The Story of Polaroid', which details the company's rise from near bankruptcy to selling nearly a million cameras in just five years.
ASIN: 1616890851
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The Biography of Fred Smith cover
Best for entrepreneurs and aspiring business leadersOften cited around importance of reading

This comes from the autobiography of or excuse me, the biography of Fred Smith, the founder of FedEx.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: entrepreneurs and aspiring business leaders
Key quote: the common trait of people who supposedly have vision is that they spend a lot of time reading and gathering information and then they synthesize it until they come up with an idea.
The host mentions 'The Biography of Fred Smith' to illustrate how successful entrepreneurs prioritize reading as a tool for knowledge accumulation. Fred Smith, while building FedEx, dedicated significant time to reading, which he believed contributed to his visionary thinking.
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Disney's Land
Richard Snow
Best for Anyone interested in business leadership and quality controlOften cited around Walt Disney's achievements

It's a fantastic book. It's written by Richard Snow. Highly recommend reading it. They were among the first of the park's attractions to be finished.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Anyone interested in business leadership and quality control
Key quote: It's a fantastic book. It's written by Richard Snow. Highly recommend reading it.
The host mentions 'Disney's Land' to highlight Walt Disney's dedication to quality and control over his creations. The book illustrates the pressures Disney faced while ensuring that every detail of Disneyland met his high standards.
ASIN: B07SQFMK6J
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