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#262 Herbie Cohen (World's Greatest Negotiator)

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#262 Herbie Cohen (World's Greatest Negotiator) mentions The Adventures of Herbie Cohen, world's greatest negotiator by Rich Cohen, Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl, Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson, and You Can Negotiate Anything with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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As soon as I picked up and started reading the book, it's very hard to put down.

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What I learned from reading The Adventures of Herbie Cohen: World's Greatest Negotiator by Rich Cohen. ---- Get access to the World’s Most Valuable Notebook for Founders at Founders Notes.com ---- [1:20] The Fish That Ate the Whale: The Life and Times of America's Banana King by Rich Cohen (Founders #255) [2:42] You Can Negotiate Anything: How to Get What You Want by Herb Cohen. [3:57] Even our heroes falter. [6:01] Once you see your life as a game, and the things you strive for as no more than pieces in that game, you'll become a much more effective player. [7:20] He was proving what would become a lifelong principle: Most people are schmucks and will obey any type of authority. [7:34] Power is based on perception; if you think you got it, you got it, even if you don't got it. [7:54] Nolan Bushnell to a young Steve Jobs: “I taught him that if you act like you can do something, then it will work. I told him, ‘Pretend to be completely in control and people will assume that you are.” from Steve Jobs: The Exclusive Biography by Walter Isaacson. (Founders #214) [10:30] Life is a game and to win you must consider other people as players with as much at stake as yourself. If you understand their motivations, you can control the action and free yourself from every variety of jam. Focus less on yourself and more on others. Everyone has something at stake. If you address that predicament you can move anyone from no to yes. [14:01] Those who can live with ambiguity and still function do the best. [14:21] Ambiguity is the constant companion of the entrepreneur. [15:26] Don't bitch. Don't complain. Just play the cards that you've been dealt. [20:12] Most people try to blend in. Herbie went the other way. When they zig, I zag. [21:49] It meant Sharon had failed to understand an essential part of an ancient code. If you have a problem with your brother, you deal with it inside the family. Don't rat. Don't turn your brother in to the cops. It was another one of his big lessons. Loyalty. Without that you have nothing. [27:03] Man’s Search For Meaning by Viktor Frankl [30:11] When it comes to negotiating you'd be better off acting like you know less, not more. [32:18] How Brands Grow: What Marketers Don't Know by Byron Sharp [35:56] He believed it was good, possibly very good, and it was this belief, which never wavered, that would give him the confidence to persist despite the rejections that were coming. Quoting Harry Truman, he'd say, "I make a decision once." And he'd made his decision about the book. In case of rejection, the only thing that would change was his opinion of the publishing house. [37:01] It took 18 no's to get to a yes. [37:37] Herbie sells his book by hand. This part is incredible. [40:36] Back in Bensonhurst we were seeing my father as he'd been before he was our father. As he was still deep down when we weren't looking. [43:50] I told him I did not want something to fall back on because people who have something to fall back on usually end up "falling back on it. [47:34] You can always understand the son by the story of his father. The story of the father is embedded in the son. —Francis Ford Coppola: A Filmmaker's Life by Michael Schumacher (Founders #242) That was the last time I saw him. His brave cheerfulness chokes me every time I recall the scene. It is impossible to imagine my father's emotions as he waved goodbye knowing that he might be on his way to London to die. Sixty years have not softened these memories, nor the sadness that he missed enjoying his three children growing up. I felt the devastating loss of my dad, his love, his humor, and the things he taught me. I feared for a future without him. — Invention: A Life by James Dyson (Founders #205) [52:48] Even our heroes falter. ---- Get access to the World’s Most Valuable Notebook for Founders at Founders Notes.com ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast ---- Founders Notes gives you the ability to tap into the collective knowledge of history's greatest entrepreneurs on demand. Use it to supplement the decisions you make in your work. Get access to Founders Notes here. ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast
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The Adventures of Herbie Cohen, world's greatest negotiator
Rich Cohen

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Man's Search for Meaning
Viktor Frankl

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Steve Jobs
Walter Isaacson

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You Can Negotiate Anything

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How Brands Grow

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Best for Individuals interested in negotiation and personal developmentOften cited around first negotiation experience

The excerpt discusses the book 'The Adventures of Herbie Cohen', written by Rich Cohen, which is about his father, a renowned negotiator.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals interested in negotiation and personal development
Key quote: As soon as I picked up and started reading the book, it's very hard to put down.
The host mentions 'The Adventures of Herbie Cohen' to highlight the unique and engaging storytelling of Rich Cohen about his father's life as a negotiator. The book's humorous and insightful anecdotes make it a compelling read for anyone interested in negotiation skills and personal stories.
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Best for Individuals seeking personal empowerment and philosophical insightsOften cited around philosophy of empowerment

Herbie believed it was all about the freedom of the mind, all about confidence, behaving as if you belong. His favorite passage came from Viktor Frankl's book, Man's Search for Meaning, where the last human, the freedom is defined as the freedom to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals seeking personal empowerment and philosophical insights
Key quote: His favorite passage came from Viktor Frankl's book, Man's Search for Meaning, where the last human, the freedom is defined as the freedom to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances and to choose one's own way every hour.
The host discusses how Herbie's philosophy, influenced by Viktor Frankl's 'Man's Search for Meaning', emphasizes the importance of inner freedom and the power of choice in shaping one's attitude. This book serves as a foundational text for understanding Herbie's approach to life and decision-making.
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Steve Jobs
Walter Isaacson
Best for Aspiring entrepreneurs and business leadersOften cited around entrepreneurial mindset

The speaker references a lesson from the biography of Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson, discussing advice given to Jobs.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Aspiring entrepreneurs and business leaders
Key quote: If you act like you can do something, then it will work.
The host mentions 'Steve Jobs' to illustrate a key lesson about perception and control that both Herbie and Steve Jobs learned early in their lives. This connection emphasizes the importance of projecting confidence to influence others' perceptions and actions.
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You Can Negotiate Anything cover
Best for Individuals interested in negotiation and personal developmentOften cited around negotiation techniques

Herb Cohen is described as the author of 'You Can Negotiate Anything', a book that became a publishing phenomenon.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in negotiation and personal development
Key quote: In professional circles, he is Herb Cohen, an expert in the art of the deal and the author of You Can Negotiate Anything, a publishing phenomenon that came out of nowhere in 1980 to sell more than a million copies.
The host mentions 'You Can Negotiate Anything' to highlight Herb Cohen's expertise in negotiation and his significant impact on various high-stakes situations. This book serves as a foundational piece in understanding the art of negotiation, which is further explored through anecdotes from Rich Cohen's biography of his father.
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Best for marketers and business professionalsOften cited around importance of repetition

I had two really smart people, both listen to the podcast, both don't know each other. And they both recently in the last, like, I don't know, two weeks, maybe four weeks, had recommended the same book. They're like, David, you need to read this book, How Brands Grow.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: marketers and business professionals
Key quote: the main message of that book is repetition.
The host mentions 'How Brands Grow' as a book recommended by two different listeners, highlighting its focus on the concept of repetition in marketing. Although the host hasn't read the book yet, they acknowledge its significance in influencing brand perception through constant exposure.
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Best for Readers interested in American history and biographies.Often cited around biography of Samuel Zemuri

The speaker mentions rereading 'The Fish That Ate the Whale', which serves as a biography of Samuel Zemuri.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Readers interested in American history and biographies.
Key quote: The speaker mentions rereading 'The Fish That Ate the Whale', which serves as a biography of Samuel Zemuri.
The host briefly mentions rereading 'The Fish That Ate the Whale' to highlight its biographical content. This book provides insights into the life of Samuel Zemuri, which may interest those curious about influential figures in American history.
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As soon as I picked up and started reading the book, it's very hard to put down.
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His favorite passage came from Viktor Frankl's book, Man's Search for Meaning, where the last human, the freedom is defined as the freedom to choose…
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The Adventures of Herbie Cohen, world's greatest negotiator
Rich Cohen

The host mentions 'The Adventures of Herbie Cohen' to highlight the unique and engaging storytelling of Rich Cohen about his father's life as a neg…

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Man's Search for Meaning
Viktor Frankl

The host discusses how Herbie's philosophy, influenced by Viktor Frankl's 'Man's Search for Meaning', emphasizes the importance of inner freedom an…

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Steve Jobs
Walter Isaacson

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