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FoundersMay 13, 2022

#246 Mark Leonard's Shareholder Letters

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#246 Mark Leonard's Shareholder Letters mentions Berkshire shareholder letters by Warren Buffett, Thinking, Fast and Slow by Danny Kahneman, One Man's Medicine by Archie Cochran, and The Evolution of Cooperation by Robert Axelrod with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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Anyone who likes reading Berkshire shareholder letters will enjoy Leonard's.

Mark mentions that he is shamelessly flogging Danny Kahneman's Thinking Fast and Slow, which discusses behavioral economic experiments and insights i…

One Man's Medicine
Archie Cochran

the first book is a moving idiosyncratic and amusing autobiography of a brilliant and a rudite outsider that makes you wish you had known the man fir…

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What I learned from reading Constellation Software Inc. President's Letters by Mark Leonard. ---- Get access to the World’s Most Valuable Notebook for Founders at Founders Notes.com ---- [1:10] Business lessons from Mark Leonard by Tren Griffin [2:11] Newsletter: Liberty’s Highlights The Serendipity Engine: Investing & business, science & technology, and the arts. [2:59] I don’t like anyone telling me what to do. I don’t like anyone saying I am an authority figure and you will do it this way. I can’t think of anything that annoys me more. I was stuck by the principal. I challenged teachers. I left home early. I had a bootleg radio license. I built a flamethrower. I did things that weren’t accepted by lots of people. That ability to choose what I think is right is something I prize highly. [4:49] Distant Force: A Memoir of the Teledyne Corporation and the Man Who Created It (Founders #110) and The Outsiders: Eight Unconventional CEOs and Their Radically Rational Blueprint for Success (Founders #94) [4:53] Teledyne grows bigger by dividing businesses into smaller parts wherever possible. Singleton claims that this keeps his managers creative and not wasteful. [5:12] Our preference is to acquire businesses in their entirety and to own them forever. [8:57] The Fish That Ate the Whale: The Life and Times of America's Banana King (Founders #37) [9:18] There are times when certain cards sit unclaimed in the common pile, when certain properties become available that will never be available again. A good businessman feels these moments like a fall in the barometric pressure. A great businessman is dumb enough to act on them even when he cannot afford to. [12:20] Customer relationships that endure for more than two decades are valuable. [13:08] The longer we have owned a small software business, the larger and better it has become. [15:32] Jeff Bezos’s Shareholder Letters. All of them! (Founders #71) [23:22] We didn't get to that point with central edicts or grand plans. We just had a hunch that our internal ventures could be better managed, and started measuring them. The people involved in the Initiatives generated the data, and with measurement came adjustment and adaptation. It took 6 years, but we have fundamentally changed the mental models of a generation of our managers and employees. [23:56] A Man for All Markets: From Las Vegas to Wall Street, How I Beat the Dealer and the Market (Founders #93 and #222) [28:06] Our business units rarely get large. [28:26] This suggests that the size and performance of our business units are almost totally unrelated. I believe that these business units are small for a reason...that the advantages of being agile and tight far outweigh economies of scale. I’m not a proponent of handling our “complexity problem” by creating a bunch of 400 employee business units to replace our 40 employee units. I’m looking for ways of “achieving scale” elsewhere. [29:06] Debt is cheap right now, so it is pretty tempting to use it. Unfortunately, it has a nasty habit of going away when you need it most. [30:42] The Essays of Warren Buffett (Founders #227) [32:51] Book recommendation from Mark: Thinking Fast and Slow [34:53] I love what I'm doing and don't want to stop unless my health deteriorates or the board figures it's time for me to go. [36:42] My personal preference is to instead focus on keeping our business units small, and the majority of the decision making down at the business level. Partly this is a function of my experience with small high performance teams when I was a venture capitalist, and partly it is a function of seeing that most vertical markets have several viable competitors who exhibit little correlation between their profitability and relative scale. (TRUST IN SMALL GROUPS OF SMART PEOPLE) [37:35] There are a number of implications if you share my view: We should a) regularly divide our largest business units into smaller, more focused business units unless there is an overwhelmingly obvious reason to keep them whole, b) operate the majority of the businesses that we acquire as separate units rather than merge them with existing CSI businesses, and c) drive down cost at the head office and Operating Group level. [38:11] I want you to bear with me because I really do think this is a very clear description of what he's building, the advantages the strategy provides, and why he's going to be hard to compete with over the longterm. [40:13] We have 199 business units. We can run a test in 5, 10, 6, 24, whatever it is —we find what works and we can spread it throughout the entire company and spreading best business practices makes those businesses better. The longer it goes, the more businesses we have, the stronger they get over the time. And it's nice you have a checkbook and a phone but I'm way too far ahead— you'll never catch me is essentially what he's saying. [42:00] Copy This!: How I turned Dyslexia, ADHD, and 100 square feet into a company called Kinkos (Founders #181) [43:19] Book recommendation from Mark: The Evolution of Cooperation [44:52] You Don't Know Jack... or Jerry by Robert O. Babcock. Jack Henry and Jerry Hall launched a software company in theh back of a small engine repair shop. Thirty years later, Jack Henry and Associates, Inc., is a thriving operation with over 3,700 employees in close to 50 locations around the United States. [47:22] Book Recommendations from Mark: One Man's Medicine: An Autobiography of Professor Archie Cochrane and Effectiveness and Efficiency, Random Reflections on Health Services by Archie Cochrane The first book is a moving, idiosyncratic and dryly amusing autobiography of a brilliant and erudite outsider that makes you wish you’d known the man firsthand. The second is a stinging critique of a well-meaning but entrenched medical establishment, for their ineffective and dangerous medical practices. [48:23] We spend time on non-randomized observational studies trying to spot business practices that actually add value rather than just adding overhead. [48:34] My favorite part of Mark’s letters [51:09] A huge body of academic research confirms that complexity and coordination effort increases at a much faster rate than head count in a growing organization. [51:50] The business manager needs to be asked why employees and customers wouldn't be better served by splitting that business into smaller units. Our favorite outcome in this sort of situation is that the original business manager runs a large piece of the original business and spins off a new business unit run by one of his or her proteges. [53:39] Something wonderful happens when you spin off a new business unit. [54:16] When you get big you lose entrepreneurship. [54:43] If I were advising my 35 or 40-year-old self on where to go, I would tell him to stay put. Become a master Craftsman in the art of managing your VMS business. It is the most satisfying job in Constellation and will generate more than enough wealth for you to live very comfortably and provide for your family. [55:30] You can't be normal and expect abnormal results. ---- Get access to the World’s Most Valuable Notebook for Founders at Founders Notes.com ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested, so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast ---- Founders Notes gives you the ability to tap into the collective knowledge of history's greatest entrepreneurs on demand. Use it to supplement the decisions you make in your work. Get access to Founders Notes here. ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. 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Berkshire shareholder letters
Warren Buffett

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Thinking, Fast and Slow
Danny Kahneman

Mark highlights the importance of Danny Kahneman's insights in understanding human behavior in economic contexts. He…

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One Man's Medicine
Archie Cochran

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The Evolution of Cooperation
Robert Axelrod

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The Fish That Ate the Whale

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Effectiveness and Efficiency
Archie Cochran

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You Don't Know Jack

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Best for Investors and business enthusiastsOften cited around Mark Leonard's investment strategy

The speaker mentions that Mark Leonard's approach in his shareholder letters is reminiscent of Buffett's shareholder letters, emphasizing a preference for acquiring businesses in their entirety and owning them forever.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Investors and business enthusiasts
Key quote: Anyone who likes reading Berkshire shareholder letters will enjoy Leonard's.
The host draws a parallel between Mark Leonard and Warren Buffett, suggesting that those who appreciate Buffett's shareholder letters will find value in Leonard's writings. The mention of the Berkshire shareholder letters serves to highlight Leonard's disciplined approach to investing and company management.
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Thinking, Fast and Slow cover
Best for investors and managersOften cited around behavioral economics and investing

Mark mentions that he is shamelessly flogging Danny Kahneman's Thinking Fast and Slow, which discusses behavioral economic experiments and insights into investing and managing.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: investors and managers
Key quote: Mark mentions that he is shamelessly flogging Danny Kahneman's Thinking Fast and Slow, which discusses behavioral economic experiments and insights into investing and managing.
Mark highlights the importance of Danny Kahneman's insights in understanding human behavior in economic contexts. He believes that the book provides valuable lessons for both investing and management.
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One Man's Medicine
Archie Cochran
Best for business leaders and managersOften cited around business autonomy and management

Mark mentions One Man's Medicine, an autobiography by Archie Cochran, describing it as a moving and amusing account of a brilliant outsider.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: business leaders and managers
Key quote: the first book is a moving idiosyncratic and amusing autobiography of a brilliant and a rudite outsider that makes you wish you had known the man firsthand
The host mentions 'One Man's Medicine' to highlight the parallels between medical practices and business management. The insights from Archie Cochran's autobiography resonate with the host's philosophy on fostering autonomy in business.
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Best for entrepreneurs and business leadersOften cited around business experimentation strategies

Mark recommends The Evolution of Cooperation by Robert Axelrod, which provides models for thinking about business problems.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: entrepreneurs and business leaders
Key quote: he says the evolution of cooperation by robert axelrod has provided me with models for thinking about a number of business problems
The host mentions 'The Evolution of Cooperation' as a valuable resource for understanding complex business problems. They draw parallels between the book's concepts and the decentralized management approach used by Kinko's founder, highlighting its relevance in modern business practices.
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Best for Entrepreneurs and business leadersOften cited around entrepreneurial strategy and debt

The speaker references a paragraph from 'The Fish That Ate the Whale' that describes a point in the career of Sam Zamuri, relating it to Constellation's business during a specific time in history.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Entrepreneurs and business leaders
Key quote: And there's a paragraph in that book that I've never forgotten.
The host mentions 'The Fish That Ate the Whale' to illustrate a pivotal moment in entrepreneurial decision-making regarding debt and acquisitions during economic downturns. The insights from the book resonate with the current challenges faced by Constellation in navigating competition and capitalizing on market opportunities.
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Best for Business leaders and managers seeking innovative management strategiesOften cited around business autonomy and management

Mark refers to Effectiveness and Efficiency, a critique of the medical establishment, drawing parallels to business practices.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Business leaders and managers seeking innovative management strategies
Key quote: Archie's observations regarding medical practice and doctors struck me as applying equally to business practices and managers.
The host mentions 'Effectiveness and Efficiency' to highlight how Archie Cochran's insights on medical practices can be applied to business management. The book critiques entrenched practices and emphasizes the importance of effectiveness, paralleling the host's views on business autonomy and management strategies.
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Best for entrepreneurs and business leadersOften cited around business practices and culture

Mark encourages familiarity with the book You Don't Know Jack, which covers the founding of Jack Henry and Associates and includes firsthand accounts about the company's practices.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: entrepreneurs and business leaders
Key quote: the book covers the founding of the company through the end of all the way from the founding of the company all the way up to two thousand and fifty years ago
The host mentions 'You Don't Know Jack' as a resource that provides insights into the founding and operational strategies of Jack Henry and Associates. This book is highlighted for its firsthand accounts that can help understand the company's successful business practices.
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Berkshire shareholder letters
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Anyone who likes reading Berkshire shareholder letters will enjoy Leonard's.
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Mark mentions that he is shamelessly flogging Danny Kahneman's Thinking Fast and Slow, which discusses behavioral economic experiments and insights i…
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Warren Buffett

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Thinking, Fast and Slow
Danny Kahneman

Mark highlights the importance of Danny Kahneman's insights in understanding human behavior in economic contexts. He believes that the book provide…

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One Man's Medicine
Archie Cochran

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