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#245 Rick Rubin (In the Studio)

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#245 Rick Rubin (In the Studio) mentions Rick Rubin in the studio by Jake Brown, the mind and philosophy of Rick Rubin, James Dyson's autobiography, and Founders 228 with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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In fact, it's repeated so much.

I absolutely loved this book I loved going deep on Rick Rubin the mind and philosophy of Rick Rubin.

that book is all about the struggle the early days of that every single person that's trying to do something difficult

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What I learned from reading Rick Rubin: In the Studio by Jake Brown. ---- Get access to the World’s Most Valuable Notebook for Founders at Founders Notes.com ---- Rick Rubin on Lex Fridman Podcast #275 Rick Rubin on The Peter Attia Drive Podcast #57 Shangri-La Documentary Rick’s podcast Broken Record [1:39] Decoded by Jay Z. (Founders #238) [3:19] Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. [3:31] His goal is to record music in its most basic and purest form. No extra bells and whistles. All wheat, no chaff. [5:42] Dr. Land was saying: “I could see what the Polaroid camera should be. It was just as real to me as if it was sitting in front of me before I had ever built one.” And Steve said: “Yes, that’s exactly the way I saw the Macintosh.” He said if I asked someone who had only used a personal calculator what a Macintosh should be like they couldn’t have told me. There was no way to do consumer research on it so I had to go and create it and then show it to people and say now what do you think?” Both of them had this ability to not invent products, but discover products. Both of them said these products have always existed — it’s just that no one has ever seen them before. We were the ones who discovered them. The Polaroid camera always existed and the Macintosh always existed — it’s a matter of discovery. [7:31] My goal is to just get out of the way and let the people I'm working with be the best versions of themselves. [7:50] Berkshire Hathaway Letters to Shareholders 1965-2018 by Warren Buffett (Founders #88) [11:26] In-N-Out Burger: A Behind-the-Counter Look at the Fast-Food Chain That Breaks All the Rules by Stacy Perman. (Founders #244) [14:13] “Designing a product is keeping 5,000 things in your brain and fitting them all together in new and different ways.” —Steve Jobs [16:00] Less is more but you have to do more to get to less. [16:25] Against The Odds: An Autobiography by James Dyson and reading A History of Great Inventions by James Dyson. (Founders #200) [17:56] Rubin's most valuable quality is his own confidence. [20:57] If we're going to do this, let's aim for greatness. You have to believe what you were doing is the most important thing in the world. [21:29] Damn Right: Behind the Scenes with Berkshire Hathaway Billionaire Charlie Munger by Janet Lowe. (Founders #221) “Everybody engaged in complicated work needs colleagues. Just the discipline of having to put your thoughts in order with somebody else is a very useful thing.” [24:24] On being a reducer —not a producer: Often in the studio there will be the idea to add layers to make it seem bigger. Sometimes the more things you add, the smaller it gets. A lot of it is counterintuitive. You need to discover it in practice. [27:10] I want to play loud. I want to be heard. And I want all to know I'm not one of the herd. [36:16] There were no stars in rap music. It was really just a work of passion. Everyone who was doing it was doing it because they loved it, not because anyone thought it was a career. [38:12] Krush Groove YouTube link [38:47] Russell really cared about finding new ways to expose their music to a bigger audience. [39:03] Bloomberg by Michael Bloomberg. (Founders #228) [44:19] A handmade product at scale. [48:23] Rap music as recorded work was just eight years old. [50:06] Q: Do you have an engine of constant dissatisfaction. Self criticism that I could have done better? A: No. I’m pleased with the work that we did. Excited to keep working. It’s fun. I don’t know what else I’d do with myself. I like making things, it’s fun. I feel like it’s my reason to be on the planet so I just keep doing it. If it could be better I would have kept working on it. If it could be better it’s not done. I’ve done everything I can to make it the best it can be. I can’t do more than that so there is nothing to be critical of. It is almost like a diary entry. Everything we make is a reflection in a moment in time. Could be a day, could be a year. [52:54] These things that we don't understand and cannot explain happen regularly. [58:33] To be ignorant of what occurred before you were born is to remain always a child. [58:58] He's living in four different centuries at once. [1:01:02] I believe in you so much, I'm going to make you believe in you. [1:03:07] Hard Drive: Bill Gates and the Making of the Microsoft Empire by James Wallace and Jim Erickson (Founders #140) Gates and Allen were convinced the computer industry was about to reach critical mass, and when it exploded it would usher in a technological revolution of astounding magnitude. They were on the threshold of one of those moments when history held its breath... and jumped, as it had done with the development of the car and the airplane. They could either lead the revolution or be swept along by it. [1:05:35] The newest sounds have a tendency to sound old when the next new sound comes along. But a grand piano sounded great 50 years ago and will sound great 50 years from now. I try to make records that have a timeless quality. [1:13:58] Mozart: A Life by Paul Johnson. (Founders #240) ---- Get access to the World’s Most Valuable Notebook for Founders at Founders Notes.com ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested, so my poor wallet suffers. ”— Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast ---- Founders Notes gives you the ability to tap into the collective knowledge of history's greatest entrepreneurs on demand. Use it to supplement the decisions you make in your work. Get access to Founders Notes here. ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast
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Rick Rubin in the studio
Jake Brown

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the mind and philosophy of Rick Rubin

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James Dyson's autobiography

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Founders 228

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Damn Right
Charlie Munger

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Hard Drive

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Michael Jordan: The Life

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Blood Sugar Sex Magik

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Highly Recommended(4)Passing Reference(3)Deep Dive(2)
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Music producers and fans of music historyentrepreneurs and aspiring foundersEntrepreneurs and business leadersIndividuals interested in business collaboration and creative processes.Individuals interested in music production and industry dynamics.Fans of basketball and sports biographies

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Best for Music producers and fans of music historyOften cited around Rick Rubin's production style

The speaker discusses the book 'Rick Rubin in the studio' by Jake Brown, which they are going to talk about in the podcast.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Music producers and fans of music history
Key quote: In fact, it's repeated so much.
The host mentions 'Rick Rubin in the studio' to highlight the profound impact Rick Rubin has had on music production across various genres. The book serves as a comprehensive biography that delves into Rubin's unique approach and philosophy, which the host found enlightening after engaging with multiple related podcasts and documentaries.
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the mind and philosophy of Rick Rubin cover
Best for Music producers and fans of music historyOften cited around Rick Rubin's business philosophy

The speaker expresses their love for the book, discussing Rick Rubin's mind and philosophy, and mentions a link to buy the book to support the podcast.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Music producers and fans of music history
Key quote: I absolutely loved this book I loved going deep on Rick Rubin the mind and philosophy of Rick Rubin.
The host praises the book for its deep insights into Rick Rubin's unique approach to music production and his personal business philosophy. They highlight how Rubin's focus on authenticity and creativity has significantly impacted the music industry.
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Best for entrepreneurs and aspiring foundersOften cited around entrepreneurial struggle

The speaker mentions that his favorite book for the podcast was James Dyson's autobiography, which discusses the struggles of starting a business.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: entrepreneurs and aspiring founders
Key quote: that book is all about the struggle the early days of that every single person that's trying to do something difficult
The host mentions James Dyson's autobiography as a source of inspiration for anyone facing challenges in their entrepreneurial journey. The book emphasizes the importance of experimentation and perseverance, which resonates with the host's own experiences and discussions.
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Founders 228 cover
Best for Entrepreneurs and business leadersOften cited around creative marketing strategies

The main reason to listen to the podcast is the insane story of Michael Bloomberg, who had creative ways to get his product in front of potential customers.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Entrepreneurs and business leaders
Key quote: The main reason to listen to that podcast, other than the story is insane.
The host mentions 'Founders 228' to highlight Michael Bloomberg's innovative approaches to marketing and business growth. This book serves as a valuable resource for understanding how creativity can drive success in various industries.
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Damn Right
Charlie Munger
Best for Individuals interested in business collaboration and creative processes.Often cited around Charlie Munger's biography

The podcast discusses the similarities between Rick Rubin's process and the process described in Charlie Munger's biography, 'Damn Right'.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in business collaboration and creative processes.
Key quote: Charlie has it with Warren Buffett and some of their business partners.
The host mentions 'Damn Right' to draw parallels between Charlie Munger's collaborative process with Warren Buffett and Rick Rubin's approach to music production. Both emphasize the importance of preparation, high expectations, and personal investment in their work.
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Best for Individuals interested in music production and industry dynamics.Often cited around Rick Rubin's career shift

This is a fantastic paragraph in the biography of Bill Gates called Hard Drive, discussing how Gates and Allen were convinced the computer industry was about to reach critical mass.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in music production and industry dynamics.
Key quote: they could either lead the revolution or be swept along by it.
The host mentions 'Hard Drive' to illustrate the pivotal moment when Bill Gates and Paul Allen recognized the impending technological revolution. This comparison highlights how Rubin's departure from Def Jam was a significant decision influenced by his vision and the evolving music landscape.
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Best for Fans of basketball and sports biographiesOften cited around Michael Jordan biography

This reminded me of when I read that gigantic like 600 page biography of Michael Jordan and Michael was a fantastic individual basketball player.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Fans of basketball and sports biographies
Key quote: This reminded me of when I read that gigantic like 600 page biography of Michael Jordan and Michael was a fantastic individual basketball player.
The host recalls reading a lengthy biography of Michael Jordan, highlighting his exceptional skills as a basketball player. This mention serves to emphasize Jordan's impact on the sport and his individual greatness.
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Blood Sugar Sex Magik cover
Best for Fans of music production and the Red Hot Chili Peppers.Often cited around successful albums

One of the most successful albums that Rick ever produced was the Red Hot Chili Peppers' Blood Sugar Sex Magik.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Fans of music production and the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Key quote: One of the most successful albums that Rick ever produced was the Red Hot Chili Peppers' Blood Sugar Sex Magik.
The host briefly mentions 'Blood Sugar Sex Magik' as one of the successful albums produced by Rick. This reference highlights the album's significance in the music industry without delving into its themes or impact.
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Best for Aspiring musicians and music industry professionalsOften cited around Jay-Z's independent journey

Jay-Z learned from the founding of Def Jam and read a book called Hitman, which discusses the people making music and not getting paid.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Aspiring musicians and music industry professionals
Key quote: He read that book. I think it's called Hitman, Hitmen or Hitman.
The host mentions the book 'Hitman' to illustrate how Jay-Z learned from the early struggles of music producers and the inequities in the music industry. It serves as a backdrop to Jay-Z's decision to enter the industry independently and own his record label.
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Rick Rubin in the studio
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In fact, it's repeated so much.
the mind and philosophy of Rick Rubin
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I absolutely loved this book I loved going deep on Rick Rubin the mind and philosophy of Rick Rubin.
James Dyson's autobiography
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that book is all about the struggle the early days of that every single person that's trying to do something difficult
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Rick Rubin in the studio cover
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Rick Rubin in the studio
Jake Brown

The host mentions 'Rick Rubin in the studio' to highlight the profound impact Rick Rubin has had on music production across various genres. The boo…

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the mind and philosophy of Rick Rubin cover
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the mind and philosophy of Rick Rubin

The host praises the book for its deep insights into Rick Rubin's unique approach to music production and his personal business philosophy. They hi…

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Mentioned at 16:22
James Dyson's autobiography

The host mentions James Dyson's autobiography as a source of inspiration for anyone facing challenges in their entrepreneurial journey. The book em…

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Movies & Documentaries Mentioned

Documentary

Who Killed the Electric Car?

Confidence: 90%

Elon Musk mentioned a documentary he watched called 'Who Killed the Electric Car?' which discusses GM's electric car program and its cult following.

Documentary

Shangri-La

Confidence: 100%

A four-part documentary on Rick Rubin's studio in Malibu, available on Showtime.

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Crush Groove

Confidence: 90%

Russell Simmons dreamed up Crush Groove to introduce their label and artist roster, serving as a marketing vehicle for Def Jam.