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#222 Ed Thorp (My personal blueprint)

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Notable books mentioned: Ed Thorpe's memoir, A Man for All Markets, From Las Vegas to Wall Street, How I Beat the Dealer and the Market by Ed Thorpe, On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft by Stephen King, Gulliver's Travels

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Ed Thorpe's memoir

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A Man for All Markets, From Las Vegas to Wall Street, How I Beat the Dealer and the Market
Ed Thorpe

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On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft
Stephen King

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#222 Ed Thorp (My personal blueprint) mentions Ed Thorpe's memoir, A Man for All Markets, From Las Vegas to Wall Street, How I Beat the Dealer and the Market by Ed Thorpe, On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft by Stephen King, and Gulliver's Travels with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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What I learned from rereading A Man for All Markets: From Las Vegas to Wall Street, How I Beat the Dealer and the Market by Ed Thorp. ---- Get access to the World’s Most Valuable Notebook for Founders at Founders Notes.com ---- 1. The book reveals a thorough, rigorous, methodical person in search of life, knowledge, financial security, and, not least of all, fun. 2. I learned at an early age to teach myself. This paid off later on because there weren’t any courses in how to beat blackjack, build a computer for roulette, or launch a market-neutral hedge fund.3. Even though the Goliath I was challenging had always won, I knew something no one else did: He was nearsighted, clumsy, slow, and stupid, and we were going to fight on my terms, not his.4. I admired the heroes who, through extraordinary abilities and resourcefulness, achieved great things. I may have been inspired to mirror this in the future by using my mind to overcome intellectual obstacles.5. Rather than subscribing to widely accepted views—such as you can’t beat the casinos—I checked for myself. 6. What matters in life is how you spend your time.7. Life is like reading a novel or running a marathon. It’s not so much about reaching a goal but rather about the journey itself and the experiences along the way. As Benjamin Franklin famously said, “Time is the stuff life is made of,” and how you spend it makes all the difference.8. I also believed then, as I do now after more than fifty years as a money manager, that the surest way to get rich is to play only those gambling games or make those investments where I have an edge.9. Since much of what we were doing was being invented as we went along, and our investment approach was new, I had to teach a unique set of skills. I chose young smart people just out of university because they were not set in their ways from previous jobs. Better to teach a young athlete who comes fresh to his sport than to retrain one who has learned bad form.10. Whatever you do, enjoy your life and the people who share it with you, and leave something good of yourself for the generations to follow. ---- Get access to the World’s Most Valuable Notebook for Founders at Founders Notes.com ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast ---- Founders Notes gives you the ability to tap into the collective knowledge of history's greatest entrepreneurs on demand. Use it to supplement the decisions you make in your work. Get access to Founders Notes here. ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast
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Mention sentiment
Deep Dive(5)Highly Recommended(4)Passing Reference(3)
Audience signals
Traders and practitioners of mathematical financeIndividuals seeking personal and professional balanceAspiring creators and podcast hostsReaders interested in personal development and the impact of literatureyoung readers and parentsIndividuals seeking inspiration in personal and professional development

Books Mentioned

Ed Thorpe's memoir cover
Best for Traders and practitioners of mathematical financeOften cited around Ed Thorpe's contributions

Ed Thorpe's memoir reads like a thriller, mixing wearable computers that would have made James Bond proud, shady characters, great scientists, and poisoning attempts.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Traders and practitioners of mathematical finance
Key quote: Thorpe is also known to be a generous man, intellectually speaking, eager to share his discoveries with random strangers.
The host highlights Ed Thorpe's memoir as a thrilling account that intertwines his groundbreaking work in quantitative finance with personal anecdotes. The discussion emphasizes Thorpe's unique approach to risk-taking and the simplicity of his methods, which have significant implications for practitioners in the field.
ASIN: 0297871900
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A Man for All Markets, From Las Vegas to Wall Street, How I Beat the Dealer and the Market cover
Best for Individuals seeking personal and professional balanceOften cited around Ed Thorpe's influence

This is the autobiography of Ed Thorpe. I just mentioned that I just re-read the book.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals seeking personal and professional balance
Key quote: He is the single person, if I only had to pick one, of who do I want to most be like, who do I want to copy, who do I want to emulate?
The host emphasizes Ed Thorpe as a personal blueprint for success, highlighting his mastery over both professional and personal life. The mention of Thorpe's autobiography serves to illustrate the importance of balance and lifelong learning in achieving true success.
ASIN: 0812979907
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On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft cover
Best for Aspiring creators and podcast hostsOften cited around importance of self-knowledge

Stephen King, actually reading the autobiography of Stephen King about a month or maybe two months ago, something like that, helped me realize that I needed to re-read this book.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Aspiring creators and podcast hosts
Key quote: Stephen King, actually reading the autobiography of Stephen King about a month or maybe two months ago, something like that, helped me realize that I needed to re-read this book.
The host mentions Stephen King's autobiography to highlight the importance of being both a creator and a first reader of one's work. This reflection led the host to re-evaluate their own approach to podcasting and the influence of Ed Thorpe on their life.
ASIN: 1982159375
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Gulliver's Travels cover
Best for Readers interested in personal development and the impact of literatureOften cited around importance of reading

Some of these are fiction books like Gulliver's Travels, Treasure Island, and they inspire him to develop extraordinary abilities and to have and to achieve great things.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in personal development and the impact of literature
Key quote: Some of these are fiction books like Gulliver's Travels, Treasure Island, and they inspire him to develop extraordinary abilities and to have and to achieve great things.
The host mentions 'Gulliver's Travels' to illustrate how early exposure to literature can inspire intellectual curiosity and personal development. Ed Thorpe's experiences with such books shaped his ability to overcome challenges and achieve great things in life.
ASIN: 0141439491
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Treasure Island
Robert Louis Stevenson
Best for young readers and parentsOften cited around importance of reading

Some of these are fiction books like Gulliver's Travels, Treasure Island, and they inspire him to develop extraordinary abilities and to have and to achieve great things.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: young readers and parents
Key quote: some of these are fiction books like Gulliver's Travels, Treasure Island, and they inspire him to develop extraordinary abilities and to have and to achieve great things.
The host mentions 'Treasure Island' as an example of the fiction books that inspired Ed Thorpe during his childhood. These stories contributed to his development of extraordinary abilities and a love for learning.
ASIN: B0C62F1WRY
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Beat the Dealer cover
Best for Individuals seeking inspiration in personal and professional developmentOften cited around Ed Thorpe's influence

He winds up selling or writing a book called Beat the Dealer. OK, this book sells millions of copies. People still buy it to this day.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals seeking inspiration in personal and professional development
Key quote: He is the single person, if I only had to pick one, of who do I want to most be like, who do I want to copy, who do I want to emulate?
The host emphasizes Ed Thorpe as a personal blueprint for success, highlighting his mastery over both professional and personal life. The mention of 'Beat the Dealer' serves to illustrate Thorpe's unique approach to life and learning, which the host admires and seeks to emulate.
ASIN: B08356KFJ7
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Beat the Market cover
Best for aspiring entrepreneurs and lifelong learnersOften cited around entrepreneurship and learning

Then he winds up doing a follow up when he takes a lot of the same methods of experimentation that he used on gambling in Las Vegas and applying it to financial markets. Then he writes a book called Beat the Market.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: aspiring entrepreneurs and lifelong learners
Key quote: Then he writes a book called Beat the Market, a ton of super influential people that are now billionaires to this day wind up reading his book.
The host discusses the influence of Ed's experiences in Las Vegas and how they led to the writing of 'Beat the Market.' This book is highlighted as a significant resource for understanding financial markets through the lens of gambling strategies.
ASIN: 0470624159
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The Almanack of Naval Ravikant cover
Best for Founders and entrepreneursOften cited around wealth and happiness

I want to read founders number one, anyone I did the book, the almanac of Naval Ravikant, a guide to wealth and happiness. And that's one of the main ideas in that book.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Founders and entrepreneurs
Key quote: I did the book, the almanac of Naval Ravikant, a guide to wealth and happiness.
The host briefly mentions 'The Almanack of Naval Ravikant' while discussing key ideas related to wealth and happiness. This book serves as a guide that aligns with the themes being explored in the conversation.
ASIN: B0FBCVCC7M
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A Mind at Play cover
Best for Listeners interested in mathematics, technology, and influential figures in computing.Often cited around Claude Shannon and Blackjack

I did his, uh, his, uh, biography, uh, all the way back on founders number 95. It's called a mind at play.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Listeners interested in mathematics, technology, and influential figures in computing.
Key quote: I did his, uh, his, uh, biography, uh, all the way back on founders number 95. It's called a mind at play.
The host mentions 'A Mind at Play' to highlight the significance of Claude Shannon in the development of information theory and his influence on the guest's research. This book provides insights into Shannon's life and contributions, making it essential reading for those interested in the intersection of mathematics and technology.
ASIN: 144568277X
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Casino
Nicholas Pelleggi
Best for Individuals interested in gambling strategies and financial theoriesOften cited around betting strategies and survival

He recommends the casino by Nicholas Pelleggi or whatever. Robert De Niro's in the movie. Joe Pesci. It's a fantastic movie.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in gambling strategies and financial theories
Key quote: Strategies that allow you to survive are not the same thing as the ability to impress colleagues.
The host discusses Ed Thorpe's innovative approach to betting and money management, emphasizing the importance of simplicity in strategies. The mention of the book 'Casino' highlights the intersection of gambling and mathematical theory, showcasing how Thorpe's methods contrast with traditional economic theories.
ASIN: B003B51JOC
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Security Analysis
Graham and Dodd
Best for Aspiring investors and those transitioning from gambling to finance.Often cited around investing and gambling

I read stock market classics like Graham and Dodd Security Analysis and scores of other books and periodicals ranging from fundamental to technical theoretical to practical and simple to abstruse.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Aspiring investors and those transitioning from gambling to finance.
Key quote: I read stock market classics like graham and dodd security analysis and scores of other books and periodicals ranging from fundamental to technical theoretical to practical and simple to abstruse.
The host mentions 'Security Analysis' as part of the journey of self-education in financial markets after transitioning from gambling. This book, along with others, provided foundational knowledge that helped the individual navigate the complexities of investing.
ASIN: B0DK2963RR
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A Man for All Markets: From Las Vegas to Wall Street, How I Beat the Dealer and the Market cover
Best for Individuals seeking personal and professional balanceOften cited around Ed Thorpe's life lessons

The speaker emphasizes the importance of the book, suggesting it is about having the best life and being successful in work as part of that.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals seeking personal and professional balance
Key quote: He is the person, in my opinion, that has come close to mastering life.
The host emphasizes the importance of Ed Thorpe's approach to life and wealth, highlighting his balance between professional success and personal well-being. The mention of the book serves to illustrate Thorpe's philosophy and the impact it has had on the host's own life and podcasting journey.
ASIN: B07XRRBWZD
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Movies & Documentaries Mentioned

Documentary

Cocaine Cowboys

Confidence: 90%

A documentary that discusses the corruption in 1980s Miami during the cocaine boom, highlighting the relationship between drug dealers and law enforcement.

Movie

Casino

Confidence: 90%

A movie based on a book by Nicholas Pelleggi, featuring Robert De Niro and Joe Pesci, that explores the operations of a casino and the associated mob activities.