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#313 Christopher Nolan

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#313 Christopher Nolan mentions short stories of Jorge, Luis Borges, The Nolan Variations by Tom Schoen, The Prestige, and Everything Store by Jeff Bezos with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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Christopher Nolan has lost count on how many of Jorge's books that he bought and gave out as gifts.

If you're obsessed with what you're making, you can make other people obsessed with it, too.

The Prestige was very much the point at which we separated from the rest of the industry, or rather, they separated from us.

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What I learned from reading The Nolan Variations: The Movies, Mysteries, and Marvels of Christopher Nolan by Tom Shone. --- Join my free email newsletter to get my top 10 highlights from every book --- (7:00) The only way I know how to work is to sort of burrow in on one project very obsessively. (7:25) People will say to me, "There are people online who are obsessed with Inception or obsessed with Memento.” They're asking me to comment on that, as if I thought it were weird or something, and I'm like, Well, I was obsessed with it for years. Genuinely obsessed with it. So it doesn't strike me as weird. . . I feel like I have managed to wrap them the up in it way I try to wrap myself up. (8:30) The Futurist: The Life and Films of James Cameron by Rebecca Keegan and The Return of James Cameron, Box Office King by Zach Baron. (Founders #311) (11:00) I don’t think of myself as an artist. I’m a craftsman. I don’t make a work of art; I make a movie. — George Lucas: A Life by Brian Jay Jones. (15:30) Steven Spielberg: A Biography by Joseph McBride. (Founders #209) (22:45) Nolan is relentlessly resourceful. He wants to spend as as little money as possible so he can maintain as much control over the project as possible. (23:30) He makes his first movie on the weekends while he working a full-time job! (29:30) The efficiency of filmmaking is for me a way of keeping control. The pressure of time, the pressure of money. Even though they feel like restrictions at the time, and you chafe against them, they're helping you make decisions. They really are. If I know that deadline is there, then my creative process ramps up exponentially. (34:00) The result of making a billion dollar blockbuster: Suddenly his position at Warner Brothers went from solid to unassailable. (37:00) Stories can add to your own thinking but you need your own foundation to add them to first. (38:00) I know it's more fun when we're all together and we can do the thing together. That's why we keep it as a family business. (39:00) Rolls-Royce: The Magic of a Name: The First Forty Years of Britain s Most Prestigious Company by Peter Pugh. (Founders #287) (43:30) Every time a new feature or product was proposed, he decreed that the narrative should take the shape of a mock press release. The goal was to get employees to distill a pitch into its purest essence, to start from something the customer might see—the public announcement—and work backward. Bezos didn’t believe anyone could make a good decision about a feature or a product without knowing precisely how it would be communicated to the world. — The Everything Store: Jeff Bezos and the Age of Amazon by Brad Stone. (Founders #179) (45:30) Once your children are born, you can never look at yourself through your own eyes anymore; you always look at yourself through their eyes. (49:30) I often have terrible luck with the weather, but my philosophy is to shoot no matter what the weather is, always shooting no matter what weather, just keeping going, keeping going. Letting everybody on the crew and cast know we're really serious about doing that, no matter what the conditions are, so they're not looking out the window first thing and going, Oh, we will or won't shoot today. ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested, so my poor wallet suffers.” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast ---- Founders Notes gives you the ability to tap into the collective knowledge of history's greatest entrepreneurs on demand. Use it to supplement the decisions you make in your work. Get access to Founders Notes here. ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast
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short stories of Jorge, Luis Borges

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The Nolan Variations
Tom Schoen

The host discusses 'The Nolan Variations' to explore Christopher Nolan's obsessive approach to filmmaking and how it…

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The Prestige

The host discusses Christopher Nolan's unique filmmaking style and his resistance to industry norms, particularly hig…

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Everything Store
Jeff Bezos

The host discusses how both Christopher Nolan and Jeff Bezos emphasize the importance of understanding the core essen…

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Insomnia

The host discusses how Christopher Nolan's film 'Insomnia' was pivotal in his career, highlighting the support he rec…

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Memento

The host discusses the challenges Christopher Nolan faced in securing distribution for his film 'Memento,' highlighti…

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Inception

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George Lucas
Brian J. Jones

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Best for Filmmakers and literature enthusiastsOften cited around influence of dreams in film

One of the influences that Christopher Nolan brings up over and over again in the book is the short stories of Jorge, Luis Borges.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Filmmakers and literature enthusiasts
Key quote: Christopher Nolan has lost count on how many of Jorge's books that he bought and gave out as gifts.
The host mentions Borges to highlight how his stories have influenced Christopher Nolan's filmmaking, particularly in relation to dreams and narrative choices. The host emphasizes the importance of having a personal foundation to connect with the stories one reads, making Borges' work particularly impactful for those engaged in creative pursuits.
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Best for Filmmakers and film enthusiastsOften cited around Christopher Nolan's filmmaking style

The book discusses the movies, mysteries, and marvels of Christopher Nolan, featuring insights from interviews conducted over multiple years.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Filmmakers and film enthusiasts
Key quote: If you're obsessed with what you're making, you can make other people obsessed with it, too.
The host discusses 'The Nolan Variations' to explore Christopher Nolan's obsessive approach to filmmaking and how it influences his work. The book provides insights from Nolan himself, revealing his dedication to creating films that captivate audiences.
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Best for Filmmakers and film enthusiastsOften cited around Nolan's filmmaking approach

The movie after Batman Begins is called The Prestige. It was the first film where we were expected by the studio to digitize the negative and edit electronically.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Filmmakers and film enthusiasts
Key quote: The Prestige was very much the point at which we separated from the rest of the industry, or rather, they separated from us.
The host discusses Christopher Nolan's unique filmmaking style and his resistance to industry norms, particularly highlighted in his film 'The Prestige'. This film marks a pivotal moment in Nolan's career where he chose to maintain his analog methods despite industry pressure to digitize.
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Best for Entrepreneurs and filmmakersOften cited around importance of instinct

Let me read this excerpt from the Everything Store, which is the biography of Jeff Bezos.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Entrepreneurs and filmmakers
Key quote: Every time a new feature or a product was proposed, Jeff Bezos decreed that the narrative should take the shape of a mock press release.
The host discusses how both Christopher Nolan and Jeff Bezos emphasize the importance of understanding the core essence of their projects. This connection is drawn from the book 'Everything Store,' which illustrates Bezos's approach to product development by starting with the end goal in mind.
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Best for Aspiring filmmakers and fans of Christopher NolanOften cited around Christopher Nolan's career

Insomnia actually stars Al Pacino. Nolan is trying to pitch this idea to Warner Brothers. Steven Soderbergh is the reason that Insomnia gets made.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Aspiring filmmakers and fans of Christopher Nolan
Key quote: Without that push by Steven Soderbergh, it's not at all clear what Christopher Nolan's career would have wind up.
The host discusses how Christopher Nolan's film 'Insomnia' was pivotal in his career, highlighting the support he received from Steven Soderbergh to secure a meeting with Warner Brothers. This moment marked a significant turning point for Nolan, transitioning him from independent films to working with major studios.
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Best for Aspiring filmmakers and film enthusiastsOften cited around Christopher Nolan's filmmaking journey

Memento is the movie that was critically acclaimed. For over a year, they couldn't find a distributor. They eventually find distribution.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Aspiring filmmakers and film enthusiasts
Key quote: Memento was born into the world on the back of obsession.
The host discusses the challenges Christopher Nolan faced in securing distribution for his film 'Memento,' highlighting the personal significance of the project to him. This narrative illustrates Nolan's determination and the eventual success of the film, which marked a pivotal moment in his career.
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Best for Fans of Christopher Nolan and aspiring filmmakersOften cited around Christopher Nolan's filmmaking style

I've always wanted to do Inception. This was incredible. Inception was thus the work of half a lifetime.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Fans of Christopher Nolan and aspiring filmmakers
Key quote: People will say to me that there are people online who are obsessed with Inception or obsessed with Memento.
The host discusses Christopher Nolan's obsessive approach to filmmaking, highlighting insights from the book 'The Nolan Variations.' Nolan's dedication to his craft and the impact it has on audiences is emphasized, particularly in relation to his films like 'Inception.'
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George Lucas
Brian J. Jones
Best for Film enthusiasts and aspiring filmmakersOften cited around Christopher Nolan's filmmaking journey

This biography explores the life of George Lucas, and the speaker draws a parallel between Lucas's view of himself as a craftsman and Nolan's similar perspective.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Film enthusiasts and aspiring filmmakers
Key quote: Like Steven Spielberg and George Lucas before him, he has become a franchise, and he has been a franchise unto himself.
The host mentions George Lucas in the context of comparing Christopher Nolan's rise in the film industry to that of iconic filmmakers like Lucas and Spielberg. This highlights Nolan's unique position as a director who can create original content and still secure significant funding from studios.
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short stories of Jorge, Luis Borges
Founders · 33:41
Christopher Nolan has lost count on how many of Jorge's books that he bought and gave out as gifts.
The Nolan Variations
Founders · 3:17
If you're obsessed with what you're making, you can make other people obsessed with it, too.
The Prestige
Founders · 28:58
The Prestige was very much the point at which we separated from the rest of the industry, or rather, they separated from us.
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short stories of Jorge, Luis Borges

The host mentions Borges to highlight how his stories have influenced Christopher Nolan's filmmaking, particularly in relation to dreams and narrat…

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The Nolan Variations
Tom Schoen

The host discusses 'The Nolan Variations' to explore Christopher Nolan's obsessive approach to filmmaking and how it influences his work. The book…

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Mentioned at 28:58
The Prestige

The host discusses Christopher Nolan's unique filmmaking style and his resistance to industry norms, particularly highlighted in his film 'The Pres…

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Movies & Documentaries Mentioned

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Memento

Confidence: 100%

Christopher Nolan's second film, Memento, had a long, anxious year spent trying to secure distribution. It was personal to him and was born into the world on the back of obsession.

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Inception

Confidence: 100%

Nolan mentions that people are obsessed with Inception, and he was genuinely obsessed with it for years, believing he was making the best film that ever was.

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Blade Runner

Confidence: 100%

Nolan's favorite movies included Blade Runner, which he watched repeatedly, leading him to understand the role of the director.

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Chariots of Fire

Confidence: 100%

Nolan listened to the soundtrack of Chariots of Fire in the dark, which contributed to his imagination and ideas for films.

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2001: A Space Odyssey

Confidence: 100%

Nolan credits Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey with realizing that movies can be anything and that he could make his own.

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Following

Confidence: 100%

Nolan's first movie, Following, was created on a shoestring budget and shot on weekends while he worked a full-time job.

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Dunkirk

Confidence: 100%

Of the more than 600 people who worked on Dunkirk, only 20 were allowed to read the script, showcasing Nolan's secrecy.

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Alien

Confidence: 100%

Another of Nolan's favorite movies was Alien, which he realized was directed by the same person as Blade Runner.

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Star Wars

Confidence: 100%

Nolan's parents took him to see Star Wars, which he watched repeatedly, influencing his desire to make films.

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The Dark Knight

Confidence: 90%

The Dark Knight is referenced as Nolan's first billion dollar blockbuster, marking a significant point in his career.

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The Prestige

Confidence: 90%

The Prestige is mentioned as the movie that follows Batman Begins, highlighting its significance in Nolan's career.

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Interstellar

Confidence: 90%

Interstellar is discussed in relation to Nolan's personal experiences and how they influenced the film's narrative.

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Batman Begins

Confidence: 90%

The mention of Batman Begins comes up when discussing the director's early work with Warner Brothers.