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#216 Paul Van Doren (Founder of Vans)

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Notable books mentioned: Authentic by Paul Van Doren, The Fish That Ate the Whale, Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson, How to Lose a Billion Dollars

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Paul Van Doren

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The Fish That Ate the Whale

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What I learned from reading Authentic: A Memoir by the Founder of Vans by Paul Van Doren. ---- Founders Notes gives you the ability to tap into the collective knowledge of history's greatest entrepreneurs on demand. Use it to supplement the decisions you make in your work. Get access to Founders Notes here. ---- The way we deal with hardship is our legacy. You can accept defeat, or you can overcome it.Quitting Randy's had probably been the biggest stroke of luck in my life. Opportunity is a strange beast.Whenever a situation went sideways and things looked dire, I always called up my one superpower: focus.I believe honest self-evaluation and the ability to listen to others has been one of my greatest strengths, one that has served me well over the years. If someone had a better idea than mine, of course I would adopt that. I really didn’t care if I didn’t get credit. I didn’t need credit; I needed success.The very best thing that occurred during that first decade of Vans was that we truly became a family business. Without exception, family has always been the most important thing in my life.Most of the kids in the early skater crews came from single-parent households, from the wrong side of the tracks. They were idiosyncratic, creative, independent—they were seen as the “freaks” of the sport. In so many ways, they were our people.If you do something no one else can do, or do something better than most, the odds are in your favor for success.Shit happens—it really does. Letting yourself get stuck in it doesn’t do any good. Acknowledge it and then move on. Don’t let it weigh you down—just cope. Tackling things in a positive way will help you succeed more often than not. Shit happens: these two words fully acknowledge the difficulties in life, but you can put them firmly in the rearview mirror, without letting them mess with your head or your path in life.To me, the more critical the situation, the better I’ll perform. I don’t create clutch situations just to feel the rush—I’d prefer to eliminate risk than encourage it—but I for one have always found defeat intoxicating, especially when it's someone else's. And when it's mine, I can’t say it's ever done anything but make me think smarter and behave differently, even courageously. Hell, it's only after I lost something or when something didn’t go my way that I was afforded the opportunity to shine.I’ve learned that what makes a successful entrepreneur is the same thing that makes a good skateboarder or good surfer: you need grit and determination to get back up every time you’re knocked off the board. ---- Founders Notes gives you the ability to tap into the collective knowledge of history's greatest entrepreneurs on demand. Use it to supplement the decisions you make in your work. Get access to Founders Notes here. ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast
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Authentic
Paul Van Doren
Best for aspiring entrepreneurs and business enthusiastsOften cited around entrepreneurial journey insights

This is an absolutely fantastic autobiography. I don't think I ever would have found it if it wasn't for the fantastic book recommendations.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: aspiring entrepreneurs and business enthusiasts
Key quote: This is an absolutely fantastic autobiography.
The host mentions 'Authentic' to highlight the life lessons and experiences shared by Paul Van Doren, the founder of Vans. The book serves as a valuable resource for aspiring entrepreneurs, showcasing the importance of hands-on experience and personal growth in business.
ASIN: B0C66HC2DX
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Best for Business leaders and aspiring entrepreneursOften cited around factory work and leadership

The speaker references Sam Zimuri in the book, discussing his competitive edge in the banana industry and how he outperformed executives who lacked experience.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Business leaders and aspiring entrepreneurs
Key quote: Sam kicks their ass up and down the street.
The host mentions 'The Fish That Ate the Whale' to illustrate how deep knowledge of a business can provide a competitive edge. The example of Sam Zimuri highlights the importance of understanding the industry thoroughly, contrasting it with executives who lack practical experience.
ASIN: 1250033314
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Steve Jobs
Walter Isaacson
Best for Entrepreneurs and business leadersOften cited around leadership and competence

There's a line in the Steve jobs biography of Walter Isaacson that I kept and says, this is Steve talking. He says, and I love this, the way we're running the company, the product design, the advertising, it all comes down to this. Let's make it simple, really simple.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Entrepreneurs and business leaders
Key quote: A players do not like working with what David Ogilvie calls incompetent amateurs.
The host references 'Steve Jobs' to emphasize the importance of having competent individuals in leadership positions within a company. This discussion highlights how poor leadership decisions can lead to the downfall of a business, drawing parallels to the experiences of the speaker.
ASIN: B07ZMKXMTG
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Best for entrepreneurs and business studentsOften cited around customer acquisition strategies

It's a way to build a little bit of momentum. So there's a ton of the book that's beneficial to read because it's all about the struggle, right? How the heck does he get from one factory to one factory store to vans now 60 years later?

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: entrepreneurs and business students
Key quote: It's a way to build a little bit of momentum.
The host mentions 'How to Lose a Billion Dollars' to highlight the innovative customer acquisition strategies employed by Evan Spiegel during Snapchat's early days. The book provides insights into overcoming initial business struggles and adapting to market demands, making it a valuable read for entrepreneurs.
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Best for Aspiring entrepreneurs and business ownersOften cited around entrepreneurial success

The speaker discusses the history and impact of Vans, particularly in relation to skateboarding and its cultural significance.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Aspiring entrepreneurs and business owners
Key quote: Much of Vans' early success was the happy result of hard work and creative troubleshooting.
The host mentions the book 'Vans' to illustrate the importance of problem-solving and adaptability in business. They reflect on their journey and the lessons learned from their experiences in building the Vans brand.
ASIN: 0810983753
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Charlie Munger
Charlie Munger
Best for Individuals seeking personal development and resilience strategiesOften cited around life advice from Charlie Munger

The speaker references advice learned from Charlie Munger, emphasizing the importance of resilience in the face of defeat.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals seeking personal development and resilience strategies
Key quote: Sometimes opportunity just means that when faced with defeat or loss, a person refuses to say woe is me, but instead looks forward and asks, what can I accomplish now?
The host references Charlie Munger to emphasize the importance of resilience and perspective in the face of life's challenges. Munger's insights serve as a guiding principle for navigating hardships and maintaining a forward-looking attitude.
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Best for aspiring entrepreneurs and business ownersOften cited around entrepreneurial success principles

The mention of Phil Knight suggests a reference to his autobiography, which reflects on life experiences and storytelling.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: aspiring entrepreneurs and business owners
Key quote: What makes a successful entrepreneur... is the same thing that makes a good skateboarder or a good surfer.
The host mentions 'Phil Knight' to highlight the qualities that contribute to entrepreneurial success, emphasizing problem-solving and determination. They reflect on their own journey and the lessons learned, drawing parallels with Knight's experiences.
ASIN: B0F6V4KCVQ
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Best for Individuals interested in personal growth and legacy building.Often cited around narrative of life

The mention of Sam Walton indicates a reference to his autobiography, highlighting the theme of passing on life narratives.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in personal growth and legacy building.
Key quote: I found myself clinging to the stories, the narrative of my life, the whole of it.
The host mentions 'Sam Walton' in the context of discussing how individuals at the end of their lives often reflect on their experiences and share their stories. This reflection is seen as a way to create a legacy and find meaning in their journey, which is exemplified by Walton's autobiography.
ASIN: 0345538447
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Shit Happens
Paul Van Doren
Best for Entrepreneurs and business leadersOften cited around dealing with hardship

The speaker emphasizes the importance of acknowledging difficulties in life and moving on, referencing the book's message that no one gets anywhere alone.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Entrepreneurs and business leaders
Key quote: He has an entire chapter called shit happens.
The host discusses the importance of focus in business and life, referencing the book 'Shit Happens' to highlight how individuals can either accept defeat or overcome it. The book emphasizes that the way we handle challenges shapes our legacy and encourages a forward-looking mindset.
ASIN: B00CX9BS8E
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