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#251 Ben Franklin and George Washington: The Founding Partnership

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#251 Ben Franklin and George Washington: The Founding Partnership mentions Franklin and Washington, the founding partnership by Edward J. Larson, blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy, Heroes by Paul Johnson, and Journal of Major George Washington with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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Their successful collaboration developed a strong bond of friendship and friendship.

blood Meridian
Cormac McCarthy

And so I went back and looked and I had no idea before that, but like there is substantial archeological evidence of scalping.

Heroes
Paul Johnson

George Washington was a vigorous and active man, an early riser about his business all day, and by no means intellectually idle.

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What I learned from reading Franklin & Washington: The Founding Partnership by Edward Larson. ---- Get access to the World’s Most Valuable Notebook for Founders at Founders Notes.com ---- [0:59] Both men have been called The First American but they were friends first and never rivals. [1:32] Leadership at this level is a rare quality and well-worth study. [1:53] The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin by Benjamin Franklin. (Founders #62) and Benjamin Franklin: An American Life by Walter Isaacson. (Founders #115) [3:53] He was bookish and inquisitive. Franklin quickly displayed a seemingly inexhaustible capability for hard work and was self-taught by reading. [5:36] Franklin was convinced that acts mattered more than beliefs. [6:06] Franklin advised fellow tradesmen. The way to wealth depends chiefly on two words: Industry and Frugality. Waste neither time nor money. Make the best use of both. [7:06] The years roll around and the last one will come. When it does I would rather have it said he lived usefully than he died rich. [8:25] He found electricity a curiosity and left it a science. [8:50] When Franklin proposed the ideal prayer it was for “Wisdom that discovers my truest interests.” [9:26] George Washington was a vigorous and active man, an early riser about his business all day. And by no means intellectually idle, he accumulated a library of 800 books. —Heroes: From Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar to Churchill and de Gaulle by Paul Johnson. (Founders #226) [10:08] His (Washington) strategy was clear, intelligent, absolutely consistent, and maintained with an iron will from start to finish. [16:09] The pictures that we primarily know them as: Washington on the $1 bill and Franklin on the $100 bill — Washington was 64 years old in that picture and Franklin was almost 80 — that is not what they look like at this point. Washington is an extremely young man (21 or 22 years old) and Franklin (48 years old) still has almost 40 years left of life. [18:44] Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy [21:09] Think about this. Franklin is almost 50. He's already a successful entrepreneur, successful scientist, successful writer and now he focuses his talent on the most important project of his life. Something he will be working on in one form or another for the next 34 years —until he dies. [24:28] Never underestimate your opponent. It’s all downside and no upside. [26:39] You have to figure out what your own aptitudes are. If you play games where other people have the aptitudes and you don't, you're going to lose. And that's as close to certain as any prediction that you can make. You have to figure out where you've got an edge. And you've got to play within your own circle of competence. —Charlie Munger [27:58] Washington remained remarkably calm under fire. [28:23] This is a great description of how lopsided this was: You might as well send a cow in pursuit of a rabbit. The Indians were accustomed to these woods. [29:20] This is going to be the most decorated military leader in early American history and so far everything we've seen from his early career is just one failure after another. [32:00] Where Washington's regimen was chronically undermanned, Franklin’s was oversubscribed. They had precisely the same job—to secure the frontier. [32:30] There's a lesson that both Franklin and Washington learned during this part that is going to eventually ripple throughout history: A final shared lesson carried weight. Despite the war's ultimate outcome, the British were beatable in New World combat. "This gave us Americans the first suspicion that our exalted Ideas of the Prowess of British soldiers was not well founded.” So it's like you have this reputation because you're this gigantic superpower, this world empire —and yet what we're seeing on the battlefield was like, oh, wait a minute —they're beatable. [36:55] Understanding what people believe is pivotal to understanding why they do what they do. [37:36] Washington’s view of the American Revolution: "Essentially, he saw the conflict as a struggle for power in which the colonists, if victorious, destroyed British pretensions of superiority and won control over half of a continent." [40:17] We have taken up arms in defense of our Liberty, our property, our wives, and our children. We are determined to preserve them or die. [43:02] Washington used the winter to reassess and revise his army structure and strategy because both were faulty. [47:08] By soldiering on for one more year Washington's army, destitute and half naked, turned the world upside down. Imagine if they had quit before this point! [51:50] When I look at this building, my dear sister, and compare it with that in which our good parents educated us, the difference strikes me with wonder. (A lot can change in one lifetime) ---- Get access to the World’s Most Valuable Notebook for Founders at Founders Notes.com ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested, so my poor wallet suffers. ”— Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast ---- Founders Notes gives you the ability to tap into the collective knowledge of history's greatest entrepreneurs on demand. Use it to supplement the decisions you make in your work. Get access to Founders Notes here. ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast
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Edward J. Larson

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blood Meridian
Cormac McCarthy

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Heroes
Paul Johnson

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Journal of Major George Washington

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Benjamin Franklin

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Best for History enthusiasts and students of American leadershipOften cited around Franklin and Washington partnership

The book discusses the 30-year friendship between Franklin and Washington and how their lives intersected around key historical events.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: History enthusiasts and students of American leadership
Key quote: Their successful collaboration developed a strong bond of friendship and friendship.
The host discusses the historical significance of the partnership between Franklin and Washington, highlighting how their collaboration shaped the American nation. The book 'Franklin and Washington, the founding partnership' offers a dual biography that explores their friendship and its impact on key historical events.
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blood Meridian
Cormac McCarthy
Best for Readers interested in historical violence and its implicationsOften cited around Washington's early military mistakes

I read Cormac McCarthy's novel blood Meridian. It's a novel, but it's based on historical events that happened about a hundred years after where we are in this book.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in historical violence and its implications
Key quote: And so I went back and looked and I had no idea before that, but like there is substantial archeological evidence of scalping.
The host mentions 'Blood Meridian' to draw parallels between the violence depicted in McCarthy's novel and the historical events surrounding Washington's early military career. This connection highlights the brutal realities of warfare and its psychological impact on young leaders like Washington.
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Heroes
Paul Johnson
Best for Readers interested in American history and biographies of influential figures.Often cited around George Washington's early life

The book profiles a bunch of different people, including George Washington, providing a 10-page overview or miniature biography of various heroes throughout history.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in American history and biographies of influential figures.
Key quote: George Washington was a vigorous and active man, an early riser about his business all day, and by no means intellectually idle.
The host mentions 'Heroes' by Paul Johnson to provide a concise overview of George Washington's character and achievements. This book offers insights into Washington's early life and his development into a prominent leader, which is relevant to the discussion of his formative years.
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Journal of Major George Washington cover
Best for History enthusiasts and students of American historyOften cited around Washington's early military experiences

The governor sees Washington's diary or journal and decides to have it published, recognizing the propaganda value of Washington's account.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: History enthusiasts and students of American history
Key quote: Almost overnight, this publication transformed the young militia officer into a frontier hero.
The host discusses the significance of Washington's journal during his early military encounters, highlighting how it transformed him into a frontier hero. This journal not only documented his experiences but also caught the attention of Ben Franklin, leading to their eventual collaboration.
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Poor Richard's Almanack
Benjamin Franklin
Best for Readers interested in historical literature and practical wisdom.Often cited around Franklin's publications

Franklin published Poor Richard's Almanack, which was filled with witty commentary and practical advice, gaining a wide readership.

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For: Readers interested in historical literature and practical wisdom.
Key quote: Franklin published Poor Richard's Almanack, which was filled with witty commentary and practical advice, gaining a wide readership.
The host briefly mentions 'Poor Richard's Almanack' to highlight Benjamin Franklin's influence through his writings. It is noted for its witty commentary and practical advice, which contributed to its popularity.
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Their successful collaboration developed a strong bond of friendship and friendship.
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And so I went back and looked and I had no idea before that, but like there is substantial archeological evidence of scalping.
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Edward J. Larson

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blood Meridian
Cormac McCarthy

The host mentions 'Blood Meridian' to draw parallels between the violence depicted in McCarthy's novel and the historical events surrounding Washin…

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Heroes
Paul Johnson

The host mentions 'Heroes' by Paul Johnson to provide a concise overview of George Washington's character and achievements. This book offers insigh…

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