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#161 Dr. Seuss

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Notable books mentioned: Green Eggs and Ham, One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish, Becoming Dr. Seuss, Theodore Geisel and the Making of an American Imagination by Brian J. Jones, George Lucas, A Life by Brian J. Jones

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Green Eggs and Ham

The host mentions 'Green Eggs and Ham' to highlight the whimsical and impactful nature of Dr. Seuss's work, which has shaped childhoods for generat…

One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish cover
Mentioned at 2:38
One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish

The host discusses the impact of Dr. Seuss's work on childhood literacy and empathy, highlighting his rigorous standards and whimsical style. This…

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Becoming Dr. Seuss, Theodore Geisel and the Making of an American Imagination
Brian J. Jones

The host mentions 'Becoming Dr. Seuss' to highlight the complexities of Theodore Geisel's life and work. The book provides insights into how his up…

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#161 Dr. Seuss mentions Green Eggs and Ham, One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish, Becoming Dr. Seuss, Theodore Geisel and the Making of an American Imagination by Brian J. Jones, and George Lucas, A Life by Brian J. Jones with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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What I learned from reading Becoming Dr. Seuss: Theodor Geisel and the Making of an American Imagination by Brian Jay Jones. ---- [6:32] Both his parents would inspire and encourage Ted’s love for books. Reading was a pastime the entire family took seriously. [9:24] Ted came to appreciate the considerable discipline and commitment it took to hone expertise. [10:15] He was an inspiration. Whatever you do, he taught me, do it to perfection. [10:53] No matter what discipline you are in there’s a common denominator in how we approach our craft. The attention to detail, the level of commitment. Those things are the same across the board. That is my message. Don’t look at what I did but how I did it. The how. And then you can transfer that over to any profession and any discipline. —Kobe Bryant. [20:07] Unlike many of his classmates, Ted wasn’t entirely certain what to do next. [22:51] You’re not very interested in the lecture she told him plainly —then leaned in and pointed at one of his drawings. I think that is a very good flying cow. [23:04] Maybe the most important thing anyone ever said to him: You’re crazy to be a professor she told Ted. What you really want to do is draw. [23:48] Ted’s notebooks were always filled with these fabulous animals. So I set to work diverting him. Here was a man who could draw such pictures. He should earn a living doing that. [26:57] I don’t know. But I know one thing. My policy is to laugh my god damned head off. Occasionally I depress myself and work myself into one of those delightful funks. And I seek out subway tracks on which to toss myself. And then it strikes me as very comical and I laugh instead. [30:08] The money he earned through his advertising work would buy him his artistic freedom. What would eventually become the Dr. Suess empire would be laid on a foundation built and paid for with Standard Oil money. [33:01] To his increasing distress, the responses were all negative. He would later recall being rejected by 27 publishers. [45:12] We can live on $100 a week. If I could get $5,000 a year in royalties I’d be set for life. [46:58] If you want to write good books spend a little time studying the bad ones. [48:02] Your capacity for healthy, silly, friendly laughter was smothered. You’d really grown up. You’d become adults. Adults—which is a word that means obsolete children. [49:28] Even after 9 books he still wasn’t earning enough from them to make a living. [54:29] I’m subversive as hell! I’ve always had a mistrust of adults. And one reason I dropped out of Oxford was that I thought they were taking life too damn seriously, concentrating too much on nonessentials. [1:02:47] For me, success means doing work that you love, regardless of how much you make. I go into my office almost every day and give it 8 hours. Though every day isn’t productive of course. [1:03:08] All he wanted was for people to read:The more that you read, The more things you will know.The more that you learn,The more places you’ll go. ---- Founders Notes gives you the ability to tap into the collective knowledge of history's greatest entrepreneurs on demand. Use it to supplement the decisions you make in your work. Get access to Founders Notes here. ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast
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  • Referenced books include Green Eggs and Ham and One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish.
  • The strongest audience signal points to Parents and educators interested in children's literature and Readers interested in children's literature and biographies.

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Parents and educators interested in children's literatureReaders interested in children's literature and biographiesFans of children's literature and those interested in biographiesFans of George Lucas and film history enthusiastsYoung adults and aspiring creativesFans of Dr. Seuss and those interested in the history of children's literature.

Books Mentioned

Green Eggs and Ham cover
Best for Parents and educators interested in children's literatureOften cited around Dr. Seuss biography

The book is mentioned as a classic work by Dr. Seuss that delighted readers while teaching them.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Parents and educators interested in children's literature
Key quote: Geisel took his responsibility as a writer for children seriously, talking down to no reader, no matter how small.
The host mentions 'Green Eggs and Ham' to highlight the whimsical and impactful nature of Dr. Seuss's work, which has shaped childhoods for generations. This serves as a segue into discussing the biography 'Becoming Dr. Seuss' by Brian J. Jones, which explores the life and influence of Theodore Geisel.
ASIN: 0394800168
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One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish cover
Best for Readers interested in children's literature and biographiesOften cited around Dr. Seuss's influence

Another classic work by Dr. Seuss that is referenced in the context of his contributions to children's literature.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in children's literature and biographies
Key quote: Ted later credited his mother for the rhythms in which I write and the urgency with which I do it.
The host discusses the impact of Dr. Seuss's work on childhood literacy and empathy, highlighting his rigorous standards and whimsical style. This leads to a mention of the biography 'Becoming Dr. Seuss' to explore the life of Theodore Geisel.
ASIN: 0394800133
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Becoming Dr. Seuss, Theodore Geisel and the Making of an American Imagination cover
Best for Fans of children's literature and those interested in biographiesOften cited around influence of Dr. Seuss

The book discusses the life of Dr. Seuss, his influences, and his journey to becoming a beloved children's author.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Fans of children's literature and those interested in biographies
Key quote: Ted later credited his mother for the rhythms in which I write and the urgency with which I do it.
The host mentions 'Becoming Dr. Seuss' to highlight the complexities of Theodore Geisel's life and work. The book provides insights into how his upbringing and personal convictions shaped his iconic children's literature.
ASIN: B07PMFG98Q
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George Lucas, A Life
Brian J. Jones
Best for Fans of George Lucas and film history enthusiastsOften cited around biography of George Lucas

The author mentions this biography as one of his favorites and highlights its quality.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Fans of George Lucas and film history enthusiasts
Key quote: It's the biography of George Lucas. It's called George Lucas, A Life.
The host mentions 'George Lucas, A Life' as one of their favorite books, highlighting its significance in understanding the life of the iconic filmmaker. They express enthusiasm for the book after being introduced to it by a listener, indicating its impact on their appreciation of Lucas's work.
ASIN: B01K8RQ22O
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Shoe Dog
Phil Knight
Best for Young adults and aspiring creativesOften cited around struggles of young creatives

The opening of Shoe Dog is one of the best open. Things of any book I've ever read, because it's the inner monologue of Phil Knight deciding I'm going to pursue my crazy idea.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Young adults and aspiring creatives
Key quote: If you haven't read the book, highly recommend.
The host mentions 'Shoe Dog' to draw parallels between Ted's struggles and Phil Knight's journey after returning from the army. Both characters face uncertainty and doubt in their early twenties, making the book a relevant reference for understanding these common experiences.
ASIN: B01CRJA470
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Boners
Dr. Seuss
Best for Fans of Dr. Seuss and those interested in the history of children's literature.Often cited around Dr. Seuss's early career

February 1931 would also see the publication of Boners, the first mainstream book to feature cartoons by Dr. Seuss.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Fans of Dr. Seuss and those interested in the history of children's literature.
Key quote: February 1931 would also see the publication of Boners, the first mainstream book to feature cartoons by Dr. Seuss.
The host discusses how Dr. Seuss's first book, 'Boners,' played a pivotal role in his career trajectory. This book's success highlighted the importance of being both a writer and an illustrator for financial success in publishing.
ASIN: B000GVFWVK
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Best for Aspiring authors and those interested in creative perseveranceOften cited around Dr. Seuss's persistence

The name of the book is I saw it on Mulberry Street. It would take a while before Mulberry Street would sell through its initial print of 15,000 copies.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Aspiring authors and those interested in creative perseverance
Key quote: The name of the book is I saw it on Mulberry Street.
The host discusses Dr. Seuss's journey to publishing his first book, 'I Saw It on Mulberry Street,' highlighting the challenges he faced and his determination to succeed despite numerous rejections. This book serves as a pivotal moment in understanding the importance of perseverance in the creative process.
ASIN: 0394844947
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Movies & Documentaries Mentioned

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Cat in the Hat

Confidence: 90%

The big break is Cat in the Hat, which I think happens about 17 years after where we are in the story.

Movie

Hitler Lives

Confidence: 80%

It's funded by the U S government. I think I can't remember the name of it now. And I should know. Oh, it's your job in Germany is what it was.