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#158 Walt Disney (Disneyland)

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Notable books mentioned: Disney's Land by Richard Snow, I Invented the Modern Age, The Rise of Henry Ford by Richard Snow, Triumph of the American Imagination by Neil Gabler, Walt Disney: The Triumph of the American Imagination by Neil Gabler

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Disney's Land
Richard Snow

The host mentions 'Disney's Land' by Richard Snow as a captivating account of Walt Disney's journey in creating Disneyland. The book's engaging nar…

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I Invented the Modern Age, The Rise of Henry Ford
Richard Snow

The host mentions Richard Snow's book 'I Invented the Modern Age' while discussing his experience with another of Snow's works about Walt Disney. H…

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Triumph of the American Imagination
Neil Gabler

The host mentioned 'Triumph of the American Imagination' as a comprehensive biography of Walt Disney, highlighting its insights into Disney's life…

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#158 Walt Disney (Disneyland) mentions Disney's Land by Richard Snow, I Invented the Modern Age, The Rise of Henry Ford by Richard Snow, Triumph of the American Imagination by Neil Gabler, and Walt Disney: The Triumph of the American Imagination by Neil Gabler with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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What I learned from reading Disney’s Land: Walt Disney and the Invention of the Amusement Park That Changed the World by Richard Snow. ---- [1:29] In Disney's Land, popular historian Richard Snow brilliantly presents the entire spectacular story, a wild ride from vision to realization that reflects the uniqueness of the man determined to build “the happiest place on earth” with a watchmaker's precision, an artist's conviction, and the desperate, high-hearted recklessness of a riverboat gambler. [4:13] When he reached middle age it seemed that we were going to witness an all too familiar process—the conversion of the tired artist into the tired businessman. When in 1955 we heard that Disney had opened an amusement park under his own name, it appeared certain that we could not look forward to anything new from Mr. Disney. We were quite wrong. He had, instead, created his masterpiece. [4:58] Walt Disney was an obsessive with soul in the game. [5:26] Disney’s father didn’t believe children should have toys. [14:50] One small enterprise did please him, though, and it had little to do with the art he had done so much to invent and of which he was the undisputed master. [15:09] He was dismayed to find the man whose work he had long admired “seemed totally uninterested in movies and seemed wholly, almost weirdly concerned with the building of a miniature railroad engine and a string of cars. All of his zest for invention, for creative fantasies, seemed to be going into this plaything.” [17:15] Disney on his nervous breakdown: “I had a hell of a breakdown. I went to pieces. I kept expecting more from the artists and when they let me down, I got worried. Costs were going up and it was always way over what they figured the picture would bring in. I just got very irritable. I got to a point that it couldn't talk on the telephone. I would begin to cry.” [17:49] The money wasn't coming in. His last successful feature, Bambi, was six years in the past. [22:19] Why would you want to get involved in an amusement park? They're so dirty, and not fun at all for grownups. Why would you want to get involved in a business like that? He fielded the question the way he would countless times during Disneyland's germination. "That's exactly the point. Mine isn't going to be that way." [25:25] Disney’s friend’s reaction to hearing the plans for Disneyland: While he talked, becoming more and more enthusiastic by the minute, I began to grow more and more concerned. I hardly knew how to tell him that, for once, he was making what would probably be the biggest, most ruinous mistake of his life. What could I say? I knew he was wrong. [28:00] He never lost his calm understanding that the company's prosperity, rested not on the rock of conventional business practices, but on the churning, extravagant perfectionist, imagination of his younger brother. [38:48] You asked the question, What was your process like? I kind of laugh because process is an organized way of doing things. I have to remind you, during the “Walt Period” of designing Disneyland, we didn't have processes. We just did the work. Processes came later. All of these things had never been done before. Walt had gathered up all of these people who had never designed a theme park, never designed a Disneyland. So we’re all in the same boat at one time, and we figure out what to do and how to do it on the fly as we go along with it and not even discuss plans, timing, or anything. We just worked and Walt just walked around and had suggestions. [40:24] He told a parable. Two men are laying bricks. Somebody asked one of them what he's doing, and is told, “I’m laying bricks.” To the same question, the other man answers, “I’m building a cathedral.” [47:32] Disney was asked what he thought was his greatest accomplishment. “To be able to build an organization and hang onto it.” [48:00] The way I see it, Disneyland will never be finished. It's something we can keep developing and adding to. . .I’ve always wanted to work on something alive, something that keeps growing. We've got that in Disneyland. ---- Founders Notes gives you the ability to tap into the collective knowledge of history's greatest entrepreneurs on demand. Use it to supplement the decisions you make in your work. Get access to Founders Notes here. ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast
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Readers interested in entrepreneurship and entertainment history.Readers interested in biographies of influential entrepreneursAnyone interested in entrepreneurship and the life of Walt Disney.Fans of Disney and those interested in creative psychologyEntrepreneurs and aspiring creatorsDisney enthusiasts and professionals in theme park design

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Disney's Land cover
Disney's Land
Richard Snow
Best for Readers interested in entrepreneurship and entertainment history.Often cited around Walt Disney's vision

In Disney's land, popular historian Richard Snow brilliantly presents the entire spectacular story. A wild ride from vision to realization that reflects the uniqueness of the man determined to build the happiest place on earth.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Readers interested in entrepreneurship and entertainment history.
Key quote: In Disney's land, popular historian Richard Snow brilliantly presents the entire spectacular story.
The host mentions 'Disney's Land' by Richard Snow as a captivating account of Walt Disney's journey in creating Disneyland. The book's engaging narrative and the host's personal excitement about it highlight its appeal to readers interested in entrepreneurship and entertainment history.
ASIN: B07SQFMK6J
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I Invented the Modern Age, The Rise of Henry Ford cover
Best for Readers interested in biographies of influential entrepreneursOften cited around Richard Snow's biography

I had read another one of Richard Snow's books. So I think all the way back on Founders No. 8 maybe, I read his book called I Invented the Modern Age, The Rise of Henry Ford.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: Readers interested in biographies of influential entrepreneurs
Key quote: But, sir, he protested. These are different times. This is the modern age. And, young man, Ford snapped, I invented the modern age.
The host mentions Richard Snow's book 'I Invented the Modern Age' while discussing his experience with another of Snow's works about Walt Disney. He highlights a humorous anecdote from the book that reflects on Henry Ford's self-perception and the era he lived in.
ASIN: B01FIY9CH4
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Triumph of the American Imagination cover
Best for Anyone interested in entrepreneurship and the life of Walt Disney.Often cited around Walt Disney's biography

I want to read this quote that's at the very beginning of the book, which I found remarkable. Because when I read Triumph of the American Imagination by Neil Gabler, that was the one that the book I covered on its most comprehensive biography of Walt Disney I think ever written.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Anyone interested in entrepreneurship and the life of Walt Disney.
Key quote: When he reached middle age, it seemed that we were going to witness an all too familiar process, the conversion of the tired artist into the tired businessman.
The host mentioned 'Triumph of the American Imagination' as a comprehensive biography of Walt Disney, highlighting its insights into Disney's life and work. The host was particularly impressed by a quote from the book that encapsulated Disney's creative journey and the significance of Disneyland.
ASIN: B000KLPGP8
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Walt Disney: The Triumph of the American Imagination cover
Best for Fans of Disney and those interested in creative psychologyOften cited around Disney's creative struggles

The speaker references Neil Gabler's book while discussing Disney's midlife crisis and his obsession with building a miniature railroad.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Fans of Disney and those interested in creative psychology
Key quote: I was like, why is this guy spending so much time building this miniature replica of a railroad?
The host mentions Neil Gabler's book to illustrate the emotional and creative turmoil Walt Disney experienced during a challenging period in his life. This book provides insight into Disney's obsession with his work and the impact of his personal struggles on his creativity.
ASIN: 1845136748
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the history of Disneyland cover
Best for Entrepreneurs and aspiring creatorsOften cited around Walt Disney's vision

The speaker expresses a deep appreciation for the book about Disneyland's history, highlighting its inspiring narrative of overcoming challenges in the creation of the park.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Entrepreneurs and aspiring creators
Key quote: I think reading about something that seemed impossible from the outside winds up being successfully completed is very inspiring.
The host mentions 'The History of Disneyland' to illustrate the challenges and triumphs faced by Walt Disney in creating Disneyland. They believe the book serves as an inspiring microcosm for anyone undertaking a significant endeavor, showcasing the importance of perseverance.
Autotopia cover
Best for Disney enthusiasts and professionals in theme park designOften cited around Disney's high standards

The speaker mentions Autotopia as perhaps the most popular attraction at Disneyland, referencing a memoir by Bob Gurr that discusses his contributions to the park.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Disney enthusiasts and professionals in theme park design
Key quote: Everything Walt did was like that.
The host discusses the importance of maintaining high standards in Disney's attractions, referencing the book 'Autotopia' to illustrate this point. The anecdotes shared highlight Walt Disney's commitment to quality and the impact it had on the success of the park's attractions.
ASIN: B009YUAZL6
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Movies & Documentaries Mentioned

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Alice's Wonderland

Confidence: 90%

Disney went bankrupt in 1923 after completing an ambitious project called Alice's Wonderland, which he sent out to a film distributor.

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Steamboat Willie

Confidence: 90%

For his third Mickey short, Disney hired an orchestra and Steamboat Willie was the first sound cartoon.

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The Three Little Pigs

Confidence: 90%

In 1933, he released what one media historian has called the most successful short animation of all time, that's The Three Little Pigs.

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Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs

Confidence: 90%

Disney embarked on making the first feature length cartoon, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, which ended up consuming a million and a half.