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FoundersMarch 7, 2022

#235 Steve Jobs (The Pixar Story)

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What I learned from reading To Pixar And Beyond: My Unlikely Journey with Steve Jobs to Make Entertainment History by Lawrence Levy. ---- Get access to the World’s Most Valuable Notebook for Founders at Founders Notes.com ---- [1:34] The Founders: The Story of Paypal and the Entrepreneurs Who Shaped Silicon Valley (Founders #233) [3:42] Creativity, Inc.: Overcoming the Unseen Forces That Stand in the Way of True Inspiration (Founders #34) [3:52] Readwise App [7:22] George Lucas: A Life (Founders #35) [7:48] Steve jobs had been a Silicon Valley's most visible celebrity but that made it all the more glaring that he had not had a hit in a long time —a very long time. [8:49] Steve Jobs and the NeXT Big Thing (Founders #77) [13:35] Why would I join a company that had been struggling for sixteen years and whose payroll was paid every month out of the personal checkbook of its owner? I had not realized how dire Pixar's financial situation was. It had no cash, no reserves, and it depended for its funds on the whim of a person whose reputation for volatility was legendary. [14:05] There is no a better advertisement than a demo. [15:57] Total Recall: My Unbelievably True Life Story (Founders #141) [16:03] There was nothing normal about me. My drive was not normal. My vision of where I wanted to go in life was not normal. The whole idea of a conventional existence was like Kryptonite to me. —Arnold [16:31] I looked at my start-up clients and to me they were on an adventure. I yearned for the kind of adventure they were on. [17:28] Mind Your Own Business: A Maverick's Guide to Business, Leadership and Life (Founders #229) [17:46] I regard myself as guardian of the company's soul. [19:06] Pixar has this amazing collection of talent doing work that no one has seen before. Now it's time to turn that into a business. —Steve Jobs [22:01] Steve had an almost permanent intensity about him, like he was always in top gear. [28:25] Pixar was embarked on a lonely courageous quest through terrain, into which neither it nor anyone else had ever ventured. [28:52] Becoming Steve Jobs: The Evolution of a Reckless Upstart into a Visionary Leader (Founders #19) [31:37] Home video was turning animated feature films into big business. Bigger than we had ever imagined. [32:24] There was no modern precedent for taking an independent animation company public. [36:54] Look at the value of the major Hollywood studios and you'll see their library of films is really significant. [39:27] There was no part of Steve that bought into the idea of making products that might not all have a shot at greatness. [41:22] Made in Japan: Akio Morita and Sony (Founders #102) [48:40] Steve once told me that the gestation of great products takes much longer than it appears. What seems to emerge from nowhere belies a long process of development, trials, and missteps. [53:46] The problem with success, even a little success, is that it changes you. You are no longer walking along the same precipice that drove you to do great work in the first place. Success can take the edge away. [54:16] Creative vision does not spring forth fully formed. [59:33] Fear and ego conspire to rein in creativity, and it is easy to allow creative inspiration to take a back seat to safety. [1:01:38] The Billionaire and the Mechanic: How Larry Ellison and a Car Mechanic Teamed up to Win Sailing's Greatest Race, the Americas Cup, Twice (Founders #126) [1:06:41] Once Steve decided what he wanted in a negotiation, he developed something akin to a religious conviction about it. In his mind, if he didn't get what he wanted, nothing else would take its place, so he'd walk away. This made Steve an incredibly strong negotiator. [1:10:52] One never knows if an event that appears detrimental is in fact part of a larger pattern that we cannot see. ---- Get access to the World’s Most Valuable Notebook for Founders at Founders Notes.com ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast ---- Founders Notes gives you the ability to tap into the collective knowledge of history's greatest entrepreneurs on demand. Use it to supplement the decisions you make in your work. Get access to Founders Notes here. ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast
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The Founders
Jimmy Sony

The story of PayPal and the entrepreneurs who shaped Silicon Valley, mentioned as a footnote in the discussion about Steve Jobs.

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To Pixar and Beyond
Laurence Levy

My Unlikely Journey with Steve Jobs to Make Entertainment History, discussed as the main book of focus in the podcast.

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Creativity Inc
Ed Catmull

A book that goes into detail about the actual building of Pixar from a creative angle, referenced in relation to the early days of Pixar.

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The excerpt mentions the George Lucas biography in relation to Steve Jobs and Pixar.

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A book published a year earlier that critiques Steve Jobs' behavior and business practices.

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The excerpt discusses an epilogue or afterward in Creativity, Inc. that is worth the price of the book.

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The autobiography of Sydney Harmon discusses his feelings for the company he worked on for almost 50 years, which resonates with the role John Lasseter plays in Pixar.

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Driven from Within
Michael Jordan

The closest thing we're going to get to an autobiography is called driven from within. Michael Jordan said, I'm not so dominant that I can't listen to creative ideas from other people.

ASIN: 0743284003
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It comes from becoming Steve jobs. The evolution of a reckless upstart. I think I covered this back on like founders number 19. It is a book. I definitely have to reread.

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Lawrence contacts the guy who wrote the book, Warning About the Difficulty of IPOs, film companies. Hal Vogel was now managing director and senior analyst of entertainment, media, and gaming at Cowan & Company.

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This is like the fax machine and telephone world. Lawrence is waiting on calls to figure out, they have a good idea. It's like, what is your, I think it's the Friday.

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The podcast references a previous discussion about the importance of the founder in a company's success.

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Larry Ellison discusses Disney as one of the greatest companies ever created, highlighting its valuable assets during the internet bubble.

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