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FoundersJune 28, 2021

#188 Joe Coulombe (Founder of Trader Joes)

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What I learned from Becoming Trader Joe: How I Did Business My Way and Still Beat the Big Guys by Joe Coulombe. ---- Founders Notes gives you the ability to tap into the collective knowledge of history's greatest entrepreneurs on demand. Use it to supplement the decisions you make in your work. Get access to Founders Notes here. ---- [0:01] I wrote this book to help entrepreneurs and would-be entrepreneurs. That's why there's a lack of miracles and a surplus of marketing details including buying, advertising, distributing, and running stores; and lots of discussion of how we built a successful business on high wages. [18:09] Chapter 11 was a possibility. But I was reading The Guns of August, by Barbara W. Tuchman, with its implicit concept of multiple solutions to non-convex problems. [19:07] This is my favorite of all managerial quotes: If all the facts could be known, idiots could make the decisions. —Tex Thornton, cofounder of Litton Industries, quoted in the Los Angeles Times in the mid-1960s. [22:33] The most basic conclusion I drew from her book was that, if you adopt a reasonable strategy, as opposed to waiting for an optimum strategy, and stick with it, you'll probably succeed. Tenacity is as important as brilliance. [24:31] The one core value that I chose was our high compensation policies. This is the most important single business decision I ever made: to pay people well. [30:30] The basic problem is that convenience store retailing is a commodity business that is hard to differentiate. What I needed was a good but small opportunity for my good but small company: a non-commodity, differentiated kind of retailing. [33:38] As we evolved Trader Joe's, its greatest departure from the norm wasn't its size or its decor. It was our commitment to product knowledge, something which was totally foreign to the mass-merchant culture, and our turning our backs to branded merchandise. [38:25] Most of my ideas about how to act as an entrepreneur are derived from The Revolt of the Masses by Jose Ortega y Gasset, the greatest Spanish philosopher of the twentieth century. I believe this book still offers the clearest explanation of the times in which we live. And I believe it offers a master “plan of action" for the would-be entrepreneur, who usually has no reputation and few resources. [40:22] From the beginning, thanks to Ortega, I've been aware of the need to sell everybody. . . I took a cue from General Patton, who thought that the greatest danger was not that the enemy would learn his plans, but that his own troops would not.[47:32] We assumed that our readers had a thirst for knowledge, 180 degrees opposite from supermarket ads. We emphasized "informative advertising," a term borrowed from the famous entrepreneur Paul Hawken, who started publishing in the Whole Earth Review in the early 1980s. These informative texts were intended to stress how our products were differentiated from ordinary stuff. [52:09] All businesses have problems. It's the problems that create the opportunities. If a business is easy, every simple bastard would enter it. My point is that a businessperson who complains about problems doesn't understand where his bread is coming from. [57:00] We violated every received-wisdom of retailing except one: we delivered great value, which is where most retailers fail. [1:14:05] But do I regret having sold? Yes. I admit it. To mine own self I was not true when I sold. I regret not having had the guts to ride out the loss of the surtax exemptions, the employee ownership problem, the threat of death taxes, Carter's threat to eliminate capital gains preference, and all the other fears, real or phantom, of late 1978. I have to admit the truth, that I regret having sold Trader Joe's. And I have had to pay something for this, beyond the loss of my shadow. ----- Other episodes mentioned in this episode: #18 Let My People Go Surfing: The Education of a Reluctant Businessman #20 Setting the Table: The Transforming Power of Hospitality in Business#89 Confessions of an Advertising Man#107 Sol Price: Retail Revolutionary & Social Innovator#110 Distant Force: A Memoir of the Teledyne Corporation (Henry Singleton)#170 My Life in Advertising#179 Jeff Bezos and the Age of Amazon#181 Copy This!: How I turned Dyslexia, ADHD, and 100 square feet into a company called Kinkos ---- Founders Notes gives you the ability to tap into the collective knowledge of history's greatest entrepreneurs on demand. Use it to supplement the decisions you make in your work. Get access to Founders Notes here. ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast
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The Winning Performance cover

The book is called The Winning Performance. And here's the quote.

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Becoming Trader Joe cover

But I hope you'll consider this book as a good one. The following. My favorite quote from my favorite book on management.

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Ritz and Escoffier cover

I had a similar experience a few weeks ago when I read the Ritz and Escoffier book.

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Copy This cover

The book is called Copy This, and it's a few episodes back. If you haven't got a chance to listen or read the book yet.

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The Guns of August
Barbara Tuchman

In 1962, Barbara Tuchman published The Guns of August, an account of the first 90 days of World War I. It is the best book on management and especially mismanagement I'd ever read.

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Zero to One
Peter Thiel

A quote from Peter Thiel in the book Zero to One emphasizes the importance of creating and capturing lasting value and avoiding undifferentiated commodity businesses.

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Most of my ideas about how to act as an entrepreneur are derived from the revolt of the masses by horse, José Ortega, the greatest Spanish philosopher of the 20th century.

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Mamba Mentality
Kobe Bryant

It's funny, he says, I'm not a business man. I'm not a business man. I'm not a business man because when I read that, I thought of what Kobe Bryant wrote in the Mamba Mentality, which I thought was so clever.

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The other elements of design are owed to David Ogilvy's Confessions of an Advertising Man, which I read that book and did a podcast on.

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He says opening this new restaurant might be the worst mistake I've ever made. Stanley set his martini down looked at me in the eye and said so you made a mistake you need to understand something important.

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Yvon Chouinard, founder of Patagonia, that rebel. He said something in his autobiography, Let My People Go Surfing.

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I can't recommend this book enough. I think it's fantastic. Every entrepreneur should read it.

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