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FoundersApr 26, 2021

#177 Robert Campeau (Junk Bonds and Retail Bankruptcy)

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#177 Robert Campeau (Junk Bonds and Retail Bankruptcy) mentions First a Dream by Jim Clayton, The Big Short by Michael Lewis, and Going for Broke by John Rothschild with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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First a Dream
Jim Clayton

Time is the best filter.

The Big Short
Michael Lewis

this is just, there's a million examples.

Going for Broke
John Rothschild

this underrated book provides a glimpse into what happens when dreams become delusions

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What I learned from reading Going for Broke: How Robert Campeau Bankrupted the Retail Industry, Jolted the Junk Bond Market, and Brought the Booming Eighties to a Crashing Halt by John Rothchild. ---- [0:01] A stranger comes to Wall Street, borrows nearly $4 billion to acquire a company that six months earlier he'd never even heard of. This transaction is scarcely settled before he's allowed to borrow $7 billion more to acquire a bigger company, making him a major force in retailing, an industry he knows nothing about. [11:16] Just a few weeks back, Randall had figured that Bob might be interested in attracting a single Brooks Brothers store into one of his malls. Now in a great imaginary leap, Bob had vaulted himself into the ownership of all forty-five Brooks Brothers stores. [15:01 Neither Bob nor his advisers really knew one investment bank from another. "It was basically a matter of looking up names in the Yellow Pages." [19:42] Lehman Brothers was impressed by two things: the man's obvious, if naive, enthusiasm; and the absurdity of his proposition. Those who doubted Bob could acquire Allied had grown into a large crowd that included Bob's brain trust, his advisers in Toronto, his Toronto bankers, his advisers from Paine Webber and his lawyer. [21:45] This was Citicorp's first clue they were dealing with a volatile character, who soon acquired the in-house nickname Mad Bomber. [29:26] The M&A department they established at First Boston helped the firm to a record $125 million in earnings in 1985, a long way from the $1 million it had earned in 1978. [33:45] He think's he's destined to take over Allied. His fortune-teller says so. [41:28] Bob understood that Citicorp and First Boston, who together had invested in $1.8 billion in the Street Sweep and who were going to make hundreds of millions in fees if this deal closed, were not about to let the deal fall apart because he didn't pony up his equity. They had more of a vested interest in this deal than he did. [42:53] His $4.1 billion acquisition included a whopping $612 million in fees, expenses, and financing charges. [50:00] The purpose of business is profit, not a platform for your ego. [53:24] Bob said, "Don't worry. If somebody lends a dollar, you take it. The ramifications can be handled later. There's always some way out." He goes bankrupt shortly thereafter. ---- Founders Notes gives you the ability to tap into the collective knowledge of history's greatest entrepreneurs on demand. Use it to supplement the decisions you make in your work. Get access to Founders Notes here. ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast
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First a Dream
Jim Clayton

The host mentions 'First a Dream' to illustrate the consequences of poor judgment in business negotiations, particula…

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The Big Short
Michael Lewis

The host references 'The Big Short' to illustrate the dangers of relying on flawed financial models, particularly in…

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Going for Broke
John Rothschild

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First a Dream
Jim Clayton
Best for Business professionals and investorsOften cited around overbidding in acquisitions

The speaker discusses Jim Clayton's book 'First a Dream', which Warren Buffett read before buying the company. The book details Clayton's journey from selling car dealerships to becoming the largest producer of manufactured homes in America.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Business professionals and investors
Key quote: Time is the best filter.
The host mentions 'First a Dream' to illustrate the consequences of poor judgment in business negotiations, particularly in the context of overbidding for assets. The book provides a case study of how emotional decisions can lead to financial disaster, as seen in the example of Crown American's failed acquisition strategy.
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The Big Short
Michael Lewis
Best for financial professionals and investorsOften cited around financial modeling failures

The excerpt mentions 'The Big Short' in the context of discussing financial models and the 2008-2009 financial crisis, indicating a comparison to the federated deal.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: financial professionals and investors
Key quote: this is just, there's a million examples.
The host references 'The Big Short' to illustrate the dangers of relying on flawed financial models, particularly in high-stakes deals. This comparison highlights the absurdity of assuming everything will go perfectly in complex financial transactions, as seen in the 2008 financial crisis.
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Going for Broke
John Rothschild
Best for business students and entrepreneursOften cited around financial calamity and debt

The book discusses how Robert Campu bankrupted the retail industry, jolted the junk bond market, and brought the booming 80s to a crashing halt.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: business students and entrepreneurs
Key quote: this underrated book provides a glimpse into what happens when dreams become delusions
The host mentions 'Going for Broke' to illustrate the disastrous consequences of overconfidence in financial dealings, particularly in leveraged buyouts. The book serves as a cautionary tale about the pitfalls of reckless business decisions and the impact on stakeholders.
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First a Dream
Founders · 46:46
Time is the best filter.
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this is just, there's a million examples.
Going for Broke
Founders · 2:26
this underrated book provides a glimpse into what happens when dreams become delusions
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First a Dream
Jim Clayton

The host mentions 'First a Dream' to illustrate the consequences of poor judgment in business negotiations, particularly in the context of overbidd…

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The Big Short cover
Mentioned at 58:48
The Big Short
Michael Lewis

The host references 'The Big Short' to illustrate the dangers of relying on flawed financial models, particularly in high-stakes deals. This compar…

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Mentioned at 2:26
Going for Broke
John Rothschild

The host mentions 'Going for Broke' to illustrate the disastrous consequences of overconfidence in financial dealings, particularly in leveraged bu…

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