Skip to content
Back to Founders
Founders artwork
FoundersAug 9, 2020

#139 J.P. Morgan

Summary, books mentioned, transcript quotes, and timestamps for #139 J.P. Morgan on Founders.

Notable books mentioned: The House of Morgan, An American Banking Dynasty and the Rise of Modern Finance by Ron Chernow, Alexander Hamilton by Ron Chernow, John D. Rockefeller by Ron Chernow, Game of Thrones by George R.R. Martin

Shop This Episode

Buy the books listeners heard in this conversation.

The House of Morgan, An American Banking Dynasty and the Rise of Modern Finance cover
Mentioned at 4:56
The House of Morgan, An American Banking Dynasty and the Rise of Modern Finance
Ron Chernow

The host mentions 'The House of Morgan' to illustrate the profound impact the Morgan banking dynasty had on Anglo-American finance over 150 years.…

Alexander Hamilton cover
Mentioned at 8:55
Alexander Hamilton
Ron Chernow

The host discusses Ron Chernow's biography of Alexander Hamilton to highlight the author's impressive career and the significance of his first book…

John D. Rockefeller cover
Mentioned at 9:13
John D. Rockefeller
Ron Chernow

The host mentions Ron Chernow's biography of John D. Rockefeller to highlight Chernow's impressive writing career and the depth of research he unde…

Listen
Founders artwork
Episode audio
#139 J.P. Morgan
Founders • Tap any mention timestamp to jump straight into playback.
Ready to play
0:00--:--
Episode summary, books & quotes

#139 J.P. Morgan mentions The House of Morgan, An American Banking Dynasty and the Rise of Modern Finance by Ron Chernow, Alexander Hamilton by Ron Chernow, John D. Rockefeller by Ron Chernow, and Game of Thrones by George R.R. Martin with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

Episode summary
What I learned from reading The House of Morgan: An American Banking Dynasty and the Rise of Modern Finance by Ron Chernow. [0:01] This book is about the rise, fall, and resurrection of an American banking empire—the House of Morgan. [1:56] What gave the House of Morgan its tantalizing mystery was its government links. Much like the Rothschilds it seemed insinuated into the power structure of many countries, especially the United States. [2:46] They practiced a brand of banking that has little resemblance to standard retail banking. [3:43] They have weathered wars and depressions, scandals and hearings, bomb blasts and attempted assassinations. [4:44] Contrary to the usual law of perspective, the Morgans seem to grow larger as they recede in time. [5:41] I was struck that the old Wall Street—elite, clubby, and dominated by small, mysterious partnerships—bore scant resemblance to the universe of faceless conglomerates springing up across the globe. [6:49] Only one firm, one family, one name rather gloriously spanned the entire century and a half that I wanted to cover: J.P. Morgan. [8:13] I am a firm believer that most people who do great things are doing them for the first time. —Marc Andreessen [12:22] He carried the scars of early poverty. Like many who have overcome early hardship by brute force, he was always at war with the world and counting his injuries. [14:22] My capital is ample but I have passed too many money panics unscathed, not to have seen how often large fortunes are swept away, and that even with my own I must use caution. [14:48] His annual savings were staggering. He spent only $3,000 of a total annual income of $300,000. [18:05] J.P’s dad’s advice: You are commencing upon your business career at an eventful time. Let what you now witness make an impression not to be eradicated. Slow and sure should be the motto of every young man. [18:40] Junius Morgan reminds me of Tywin Lannister. [21:19] Perhaps the contrast between his own steady nature and Pierpont’s unruly temper made Junius fret unduly about his boy. With granite will, he began to mold Pierpont. [23:03] The Rothschilds are mentioned 30 times in this book. They had an influence on how Junius wanted to set up the Morgan family. [25:08] Junius lectured Pierpont: Never, under any circumstances, do an action which could be called in question if known to the world. [25:55] The railroads were the Internet of their day: More than just isolated businesses, railroads were the scaffolding on which new worlds would be built. [27:41] Not for the last time, Pierpont contemplated retirement. He would assume tremendous responsibility, then feel oppressed. He never seemed to take great pleasure in his accomplishments. He craved a restful but elusive peace. [29:50] He made over $1 million, boasting to Junius: I don’t believe there is another concern in the country that can begin to show such a result. [31:19] He believed that he knew how the economy should be ordered and how people should behave. [32:24] He had trouble delegating authority and low regard for the intelligence of other people. “The longer I live the more apparent becomes the absence of brains.” [33:48] Under his stern facade, Junius adored Pierpont; the obsessive grooming was a tacit acknowledgement of his son’s gifts. [35:36] Pierpont was, by nature, a laconic man. He had no gift for sustained analysis; his genius was in the brief, sudden brainstorm. [38:40] Pierpont found Jack soft and rather passive, lacking the sort of gumption he had as a young man. [40:40] Pierpont was extremely attentive to details and took pride in the knowledge that he could perform any job in the bank. “I can sit down at any clerk’s desk, take up his work here he left it and go on with it. I don’t like being at any man’s mercy.” He never renounced the founder’s itch to know the most minute details of the business. [41:31] The years change, but the point always remains the same: Morgan benefits from financial crises. [42:14] Virtually every bankrupt railroad east of the Mississippi eventually passed through such reorganization, or morganization, as it was called. The companies’ combined revenues approached an amount equal to half of the U.S. government’s annual receipts. [45:22] He has the driving power of a locomotive. He suggested something brutish and uncontrollable, but also something of superhuman strength. [47:04] Carnegie celebrated too quickly. He later admitted to Morgan that he had sold out too cheap, by $100 million. Morgan replied, “Very likely, Andrew.” [52:15] McKinley’s assassination would be a turning point in Pierpont’s life, for it installed in the presidency Theodore Roosevelt. Book: The Hour of Fate: Theodore Roosevelt, J.P. Morgan, and the Battle to Transform American Capitalism [53:05] The 1907 panic was Pierpont’s last hurray. He suddenly functioned as America’s central bank. He saved several trust companies and a leading brokerage house, bailed out New York City, and rescued the Stock Exchange. [54:33] Contemporaries saw Morgan as the incarnation of pure will. [1:02:39] This was Pierpont in a nutshell: He represented bondholders and expressed their wrath against irresponsible management. [1:07:37] Andrew Carnegie after J. P. Morgan died: And to think he was not a rich man. ---- Founders Notes gives you the ability to tap into the collective knowledge of history's greatest entrepreneurs on demand. Use it to supplement the decisions you make in your work. Get access to Founders Notes here. ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast
Book mentions8
Media mentions0
Search intent answers

Quick FAQ

Direct answers for the summary, books, and takeaways queries sending search traffic to this episode.

What is #139 J.P. Morgan about?

Summary, books mentioned, transcript quotes, and timestamps for #139 J.P. Morgan on Founders.

What are the main takeaways from #139 J.P. Morgan?

These are the strongest takeaways surfaced by the transcript, summary copy, and linked mentions for #139 J.P. Morgan.

  • The conversation centers on American banking empire.
  • A second recurring theme is biography of J.P. Morgan.
  • Referenced books include The House of Morgan, An American Banking Dynasty and the Rise of Modern Finance by Ron Chernow and Alexander Hamilton by Ron Chernow.
  • The strongest audience signal points to Readers interested in financial history and banking evolution and Readers interested in financial history and biography.

Which books are mentioned in #139 J.P. Morgan?

The House of Morgan, An American Banking Dynasty and the Rise of Modern Finance by Ron Chernow, Alexander Hamilton by Ron Chernow, and John D. Rockefeller by Ron Chernow are the clearest linked books in this episode, each tied back to transcript timestamps and quote cards.

Why are listeners searching for #139 J.P. Morgan?

#139 J.P. Morgan keeps attracting summary-style searches because this page combines episode context, transcript quotes, book references, and direct jump links back into the audio.

Topic and sentiment signals

Aggregated from transcript-derived mention metadata for better topical navigation and citation.

Mention sentiment
Deep Dive(8)
Audience signals
Readers interested in financial history and banking evolutionReaders interested in financial history and biographyFans of historical narratives and 'Game of Thrones' enthusiastsReaders interested in financial history and bankingIndividuals interested in financial history and economic power dynamics.Readers interested in historical biographies and the nuances of influential figures in American business.

Books Mentioned

The House of Morgan, An American Banking Dynasty and the Rise of Modern Finance cover
Best for Readers interested in financial history and banking evolutionOften cited around history of American banking

The book discusses the history of the House of Morgan and its significance in American finance, reflecting on the author's journey in writing it.

View mention details
Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in financial history and banking evolution
Key quote: The story of the Morgan banks is nothing less than the history of Anglo-American finance itself.
The host mentions 'The House of Morgan' to illustrate the profound impact the Morgan banking dynasty had on Anglo-American finance over 150 years. The book serves as a lens through which to understand the evolution of Wall Street from elite partnerships to modern conglomerates.
ASIN: B00AJ02BY4
Buy on Amazon
Alexander Hamilton cover
Best for Readers interested in financial history and biographyOften cited around biography of J.P. Morgan

Ron Chernow's biography on Alexander Hamilton served as the basis for the popular musical Hamilton by Lin-Manuel Miranda.

View mention details
Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in financial history and biography
Key quote: Ron wrote biographies on George Washington, General Grant, Alexander Hamilton.
The host discusses Ron Chernow's biography of Alexander Hamilton to highlight the author's impressive career and the significance of his first book. Chernow's work not only laid the foundation for his future successes but also inspired the popular musical 'Hamilton' by Lin-Manuel Miranda.
ASIN: B0007OB58A
Buy on Amazon
John D. Rockefeller cover
Best for Readers interested in financial history and biographyOften cited around Ron Chernow's biography style

The speaker mentions having read Ron Chernow's biography on John D. Rockefeller, indicating it as a significant work.

View mention details
Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in financial history and biography
Key quote: I did his wonderful, his masterpiece, his biography on John D. Rockefeller.
The host mentions Ron Chernow's biography of John D. Rockefeller to highlight Chernow's impressive writing career and the depth of research he undertakes. This reference serves to emphasize the significance of Chernow's first book and its impact on his subsequent works.
ASIN: 1632206234
Buy on Amazon
Game of Thrones cover
Game of Thrones
George R.R. Martin
Best for Fans of historical narratives and 'Game of Thrones' enthusiastsOften cited around family legacy and discipline

The speaker compares Junius to Tywin Lannister from 'Game of Thrones', noting similarities in their views on legacy and family name.

View mention details
Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Fans of historical narratives and 'Game of Thrones' enthusiasts
Key quote: Junius reminds me a lot of Tywin Lannister.
The host draws a parallel between Junius Morgan's strict upbringing of his son JP and the character Tywin Lannister from 'Game of Thrones'. This comparison highlights the theme of prioritizing family legacy and the harsh lessons imparted to ensure the family's name endures through generations.
ASIN: 0345535529
Buy on Amazon
J.P. Morgan cover
Best for Readers interested in financial history and bankingOften cited around American banking empire

The excerpt discusses the life and challenges of J.P. Morgan, including his relationship with his father and the pressures he faced as a banker.

View mention details
Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in financial history and banking
Key quote: This book is about the rise, fall, and resurrection of an American banking empire, the House of Morgan.
The host discusses the intricate history and influence of the House of Morgan, highlighting its significant role in American finance and its connections to powerful families and government. This book provides a detailed exploration of the banking empire's operations and its impact on both national and international affairs.
ASIN: 1950010295
Buy on Amazon
The Years Changed cover
Best for Individuals interested in financial history and economic power dynamics.Often cited around JP Morgan's financial strategies

The excerpt mentions several sentences in the book, indicating a focus on Pierpont Morgan's power during financial crises.

View mention details
Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in financial history and economic power dynamics.
Key quote: Pierpont Morgan's power flourished during the steep industrial recession that began in 1893.
The host discusses the significant influence of Pierpont Morgan during financial crises, as detailed in the book 'The Years Changed.' The book illustrates how Morgan capitalized on economic downturns to consolidate power and control over bankrupt railroads.
Joseph Pulitzer cover
Best for Readers interested in historical biographies and the nuances of influential figures in American business.Often cited around JP Morgan's business dealings

I just read the biography and covered a few weeks ago, Joseph Pulitzer. And he, we see a sensitivity. He's a very sensitive person.

View mention details
Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in historical biographies and the nuances of influential figures in American business.
Key quote: He was a very sensitive person.
The host discusses the complexities of JP Morgan's character and business practices, referencing the biography of Joseph Pulitzer to illustrate Morgan's sensitivity to public perception. The anecdotes shared highlight the interplay between Morgan's personal insecurities and his professional life, providing a humorous yet insightful look into his persona.
ASIN: 1790718910
Buy on Amazon
The House of Morgan cover
Best for Readers interested in financial history and bankingOften cited around American banking empire

The speaker reflects on the main takeaway from the book, emphasizing the power derived from financial strength and the dynamics of banking.

View mention details
Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in financial history and banking
Key quote: This book is about the rise, fall, and resurrection of an American banking empire, the House of Morgan.
The host discusses the intricate history and influence of the House of Morgan, highlighting its role in American finance and its connections to powerful families and government. This book provides a comprehensive look at how this banking institution shaped economic and political landscapes.
ASIN: B008AU74AG
Buy on Amazon

Movies & Documentaries Mentioned

No movie or documentary mentions yet

This episode does not have extracted media mentions yet.