#1501 - James Lindsay

George Orwell

That's literally some Orwell stuff, right?

Kurt Vonnegut

And it's like almost prophetic, you know, um, God, that's the problem.

Barbara Applebaum

that's actually the same argument that the White Complicity and Racism book makes everybody car.

Guest: James Lindsay

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James Lindsay is an author, mathematician, and political commentator. His latest book, co-authored with Helen Pluckrose, Cynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race, Gender, and Identity―and Why This Harms Everybody will be available on August 25, 2020.

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George Orwell

The host references '1984' to illustrate how language manipulation can be used to control thought and suppress dissen…

Kurt Vonnegut

The host references 'Harrison Bergeron' to illustrate the dangers of enforced equality and the absurd lengths to whic…

Barbara Applebaum

The host references 'Being White, Being Good' to illustrate the concept of white complicity in systemic issues. The b…

Brave New World

Aldous Huxley

The host references 'Brave New World' to highlight the dangers of enforced equality and the suppression of individual…

How to be an Antiracist

Ibram Kendi

The host discusses the concept of antiracism and its implications in society, referencing Ibram Kendi's book to highl…

White Fragility

Robin DiAngelo

The host mentions 'White Fragility' to critique the ideas presented in the book, particularly how they reflect a cert…

Cynical Theories

James Lindsay, Helen Pluckrose

The host briefly mentions the book 'Cynical Theories' while introducing his guest, James Lindsay, who co-authored it.…

Men in Masculinities

The host mentioned 'Men in Masculinities' while discussing the challenges faced when addressing masculinity in academ…

language and oppression(2)Antiracism and societal definitions(1)Critical race theory(1)Cynical Theories book mention(1)equality and oppression(1)masculinity and scholarship(1)systemic racism and complicity(1)

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Referenced books include 1984 by George Orwell and Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut.
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George Orwell

Best for Readers interested in social theory and language politicsOften cited around language and oppression

“That's literally some Orwell stuff, right? Yeah. I mean in nineteen eighty four was like they'd made newspeak so that people wouldn't be able to have thoughts.”

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Sentiment: Deep Dive

Trigger: language and oppression

For: Readers interested in social theory and language politics

Key quote: “That's literally some Orwell stuff, right?”

The host references '1984' to illustrate how language manipulation can be used to control thought and suppress dissent. They draw parallels between Orwell's concept of Newspeak and contemporary discussions about changing language to combat perceived oppression.

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Kurt Vonnegut

Best for Readers interested in social commentary and dystopian literatureOften cited around equality and oppression

“In a very famously now people are getting aware of was a Kurt Vonnegut, the Harrison Bergeron. So this is a perfect equity society.”

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Sentiment: Deep Dive

Trigger: equality and oppression

For: Readers interested in social commentary and dystopian literature

Key quote: “And it's like almost prophetic, you know, um, God, that's the problem.”

The host references 'Harrison Bergeron' to illustrate the dangers of enforced equality and the absurd lengths to which society might go to achieve it. This book serves as a prophetic warning about the potential consequences of prioritizing equality of outcome over individual merit and freedom.

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Barbara Applebaum

Best for Individuals interested in social justice and systemic racismOften cited around systemic racism and complicity

“The book is mentioned in relation to the concept of white complicity and systemic racism.”

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Sentiment: Deep Dive

Trigger: systemic racism and complicity

For: Individuals interested in social justice and systemic racism

Key quote: “that's actually the same argument that the White Complicity and Racism book makes everybody car.”

The host references 'Being White, Being Good' to illustrate the concept of white complicity in systemic issues. The book provides a framework for understanding how societal structures contribute to racial disparities and moral responsibility.

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Brave New World

Aldous Huxley

Best for Readers interested in societal critiques and dystopian literature.Often cited around language and oppression

“Of course, you know, Aldous Huxley talked about it and brave new world.”

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Sentiment: Deep Dive

Trigger: language and oppression

For: Readers interested in societal critiques and dystopian literature.

Key quote: “Aldous Huxley talked about it and brave new world.”

The host references 'Brave New World' to highlight the dangers of enforced equality and the suppression of individual thought. They draw parallels between Huxley's themes and contemporary discussions about language and societal norms.

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How to be an Antiracist

Ibram Kendi

Best for Individuals interested in social justice and critical race theoryOften cited around Antiracism and societal definitions

“The book discusses evaluating everything according to whether it has racist or anti-racist outcomes, and is mentioned in the context of current societal debates.”

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Sentiment: Critical Analysis

Trigger: Antiracism and societal definitions

For: Individuals interested in social justice and critical race theory

Key quote: “When did Antiracist rear its head? That seems a fairly new expression, but it's getting tossed around like a beach ball at a concert.”

The host discusses the concept of antiracism and its implications in society, referencing Ibram Kendi's book to highlight the evolving definitions of racism and antiracism. This mention serves to critique the current discourse around these terms and their usage in academic and social contexts.

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White Fragility

Robin DiAngelo

Best for Individuals interested in critical discussions about race and societal ideologies.Often cited around Critical race theory

“It's like this book now. White Fragility, right. Robyn Tangelos book White Fragility. It's that's the one that Matt Taibbi destroyed.”

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Sentiment: Critical Analysis

Trigger: Critical race theory

For: Individuals interested in critical discussions about race and societal ideologies.

Key quote: “And it's like, lady, what's going on, you know? And then it's like all white people are racist is like our conclusion from this.”

The host mentions 'White Fragility' to critique the ideas presented in the book, particularly how they reflect a certain moral panic around race. They draw parallels between the book's themes and religious indoctrination, suggesting that the author's experiences may not represent broader truths about race and racism.

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Cynical Theories

James Lindsay, Helen Pluckrose

Best for Listeners interested in academic critique and contemporary social issues.Often cited around Cynical Theories book mention

“James Lindsay wrote a book with Helen Pluckrose, and it's called Cynical Theories. I really enjoy his Twitter feed and I really enjoy talking to him.”

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Sentiment: Passing Reference

Trigger: Cynical Theories book mention

For: Listeners interested in academic critique and contemporary social issues.

Key quote: “he wrote a book with Helen Pluck Rose, and it's called Cynical Theories.”

The host briefly mentions the book 'Cynical Theories' while introducing his guest, James Lindsay, who co-authored it. This mention serves to highlight Lindsay's background and the nature of his work in critiquing contemporary academic trends.

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Men in Masculinities

Best for Academics and scholars interested in gender studiesOften cited around masculinity and scholarship

“The paper was submitted to a journal called Men in Masculinities, which was supposed to study masculinity.”

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Sentiment: Critical Analysis

Trigger: masculinity and scholarship

For: Academics and scholars interested in gender studies

Key quote: “It was remember, it was submitted to a journal called Men in Masculinities.”

The host mentioned 'Men in Masculinities' while discussing the challenges faced when addressing masculinity in academic discourse. They highlighted the frustration of receiving criticism for focusing on men in a paper intended to explore masculinity, suggesting a disconnect in feminist perspectives on the topic.

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1984

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That's literally some Orwell stuff, right?

Harrison Bergeron

The Joe Rogan Experience · 1:40:18

And it's like almost prophetic, you know, um, God, that's the problem.

Being White, Being Good

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that's actually the same argument that the White Complicity and Racism book makes everybody car.

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