#1055 - Morgan Housel - Mastering the Art of Spending Money

Morgan Housel

if you can use your money and supercharge that at age 30 do it

Fantastic author, one of the greatest authors of our time.

Alex Michaelides

There's a reason it's so popular.

Guest: Morgan Housel

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Morgan Housel is a partner at The Collaborative Fund, an investor and an author. Why is spending money well a skill most people never learn? In a world obsessed with saving, why does saying “it’s okay to spend” still feel taboo? What can high performers teach us about investing not just money, but time, energy, and attention wisely? Expect to learn why it’s important to talk about how to spend money well when learning about personal finance, why good financial ideas struggle to spread while bad ones travel effortlessly, what Morgan’s definition of success is, how much modern dissatisfaction comes from comparing ourselves to people we don’t actually want to be like, the real relationship between money and happiness with nuance, why it’s so hard to find people who have managed to be wealthy, successful, happy and peaceful, and much more…

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Morgan Housel

The host emphasizes the importance of using money to benefit future generations, suggesting that this is a primary go…

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Alex Michaelides

The host mentions 'The Silent Patient' as part of a discussion on engaging and easily readable fiction that captivate…

Die With Zero

Bill Perkins

The host mentions 'Die With Zero' by Bill Perkins to highlight the detrimental mindset of excessive saving among baby…

A Billion Years of Sex Differences

Steve Stewart Williams

The host discusses the motivations and behaviors of men and women regarding wealth accumulation and spending. They re…

The Housemaid

Freda McFadden

The host mentions 'The Housemaid' by Freda McFadden as part of a discussion on engaging fiction that captivates reade…

The Evolution of Desire

David Buss

The host mentions 'The Evolution of Desire' to illustrate how perceived potential can be more attractive than current…

Abundance

Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson

The host discusses the significant issues surrounding the housing market, particularly the impact of zoning laws on h…

chick fiction popularity(2)attraction and resources(1)contemporary writing careers(1)Elon Musk's inheritance(1)expectations and success(1)housing affordability crisis(1)housing market challenges(1)importance of storytelling(1)

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Morgan Housel

Best for Parents and individuals interested in financial planningOften cited around using money for children

“Morgan Housel refers to 'The Art of Spending Money' as one of his books that discusses financial concepts.”

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended

Trigger: using money for children

For: Parents and individuals interested in financial planning

Key quote: “if you can use your money and supercharge that at age 30 do it”

The host emphasizes the importance of using money to benefit future generations, suggesting that this is a primary goal of hard work. They reference Morgan Housel's book to underline the idea that financial success should enable one's children to thrive without the same struggles.

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Best for Individuals interested in effective communication and storytellingOften cited around storytelling in communication

“Bill Bryson is mentioned as a fantastic author and one of the greatest authors of our time, known for his ability to communicate complex ideas better than academic historians.”

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended

Trigger: storytelling in communication

For: Individuals interested in effective communication and storytelling

Key quote: “Fantastic author, one of the greatest authors of our time.”

The host mentions Bill Bryson to highlight the importance of storytelling in effectively communicating ideas. He contrasts Bryson's engaging writing style with the dense language of academic historians, suggesting that good communication can make complex ideas accessible to a broader audience.

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Alex Michaelides

Best for Readers looking for engaging and suspenseful fiction.Often cited around chick fiction popularity

“I did The Silent Patient by Alex Michaelides, and I just got sucked into this vortex of chick fiction.”

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended

Trigger: chick fiction popularity

For: Readers looking for engaging and suspenseful fiction.

Key quote: “There's a reason it's so popular.”

The host mentions 'The Silent Patient' as part of a discussion on engaging and easily readable fiction that captivates readers. They express admiration for its storytelling and acknowledge its popularity in the genre.

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Die With Zero

Bill Perkins

Best for Baby boomers and financial advisorsOften cited around spending money mindset

“The book 'Die With Zero' by Bill Perkins is discussed in relation to spending money and financial identity.”

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended

Trigger: spending money mindset

For: Baby boomers and financial advisors

Key quote: “bill perkins book die with zero is fucking fantastic fantastic”

The host mentions 'Die With Zero' by Bill Perkins to highlight the detrimental mindset of excessive saving among baby boomers. The book offers a compelling perspective on the importance of spending money wisely rather than hoarding it for the future.

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A Billion Years of Sex Differences

Steve Stewart Williams

Best for Individuals interested in gender studies and financial behaviorOften cited around sex differences in finance

“Steve Stewart Williams, who wrote the fantastic, the April understood the universe. His new book is a billion years of sex differences.”

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Sentiment: Deep Dive

Trigger: sex differences in finance

For: Individuals interested in gender studies and financial behavior

Key quote: “Steve Stewart Williams, who wrote the fantastic, the April understood the universe. His new book is a billion years of sex differences.”

The host discusses the motivations and behaviors of men and women regarding wealth accumulation and spending. They reference Steve Stewart Williams' book to explore the underlying sex differences that influence financial decisions and social dynamics.

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The Housemaid

Freda McFadden

Best for Fans of engaging and easy-to-read fictionOften cited around chick fiction popularity

“I was proudly reading The Housemaid by Freda McFadden, and I thought it was really lovely.”

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended

Trigger: chick fiction popularity

For: Fans of engaging and easy-to-read fiction

Key quote: “I was proudly reading The Housemaid by Freda McFadden.”

The host mentions 'The Housemaid' by Freda McFadden as part of a discussion on engaging fiction that captivates readers. They express their enjoyment of the book and highlight its appeal in the chick fiction genre.

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The Evolution of Desire

David Buss

Best for Individuals interested in psychology and relationshipsOften cited around attraction and resources

“The book discusses what tends to be attractive in potential mates, emphasizing the importance of trajectory over current resources.”

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Sentiment: Deep Dive

Trigger: attraction and resources

For: Individuals interested in psychology and relationships

Key quote: “One of the things he pointed out, the example that he gave, I thought was so fascinating is what tends to be attractive, are not people who have a lot of resources.”

The host mentions 'The Evolution of Desire' to illustrate how perceived potential can be more attractive than current status. David Buss's insights highlight that individuals on a promising trajectory may be more appealing than those who have already achieved success.

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Abundance

Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson

Best for Individuals interested in housing policy and economic issuesOften cited around housing market challenges

“Several books have been written about zoning issues, including 'Abundance' which discusses the challenges in building homes due to zoning laws.”

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Sentiment: Deep Dive

Trigger: housing market challenges

For: Individuals interested in housing policy and economic issues

Key quote: “There are several books that have been written about it recently. Abundance by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson is a good one.”

The host discusses the significant issues surrounding the housing market, particularly the impact of zoning laws on home construction. They mention 'Abundance' as a valuable resource that explores these themes and the broader implications of housing affordability in America.

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Psychology of Money

Morgan Housel

Best for Individuals interested in personal finance and self-improvementOften cited around trajectory and success

“Morgan Housel mentions his three books, including 'Psychology of Money', which contains his thoughts on money management.”

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Sentiment: Deep Dive

Trigger: trajectory and success

For: Individuals interested in personal finance and self-improvement

Key quote: “I think for a lot of people, what they really like, what they like with money is not even being rich. It's the process of becoming rich.”

The host mentions 'Psychology of Money' to emphasize the importance of trajectory over position in financial success. This aligns with the broader discussion on how the process of becoming wealthy can be more fulfilling than simply having wealth.

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The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck

Mark Manson

Best for writers and ambitious professionalsOften cited around expectations and success

“If you discount models, Mark Manson did the same thing. There is a... You're in a sort of contemporary club of people who kind of did the same of peaking in high school with regards to their writing career.”

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Sentiment: Critical Analysis

Trigger: expectations and success

For: writers and ambitious professionals

Key quote: “the ability to be able to beat it is so... it's so difficult because your own and importantly everybody else's expectations shift.”

The host discusses the pressures of maintaining success and the shifting expectations that come with it, referencing Mark Manson's work. This highlights the emotional toll of striving for constant achievement and the fear of failure that accompanies high expectations.

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Seth Stevens-Davidowitz

Best for Individuals interested in psychology, sports, and the impact of parental success on personal achievement.Often cited around inheritance and success

“Seth Stevens-Davidowitz did a wonderful book on basketball, the mathematics of basketball, basically.”

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Sentiment: Deep Dive

Trigger: inheritance and success

For: Individuals interested in psychology, sports, and the impact of parental success on personal achievement.

Key quote: “Seth Stevens-Davidowitz did a wonderful book on basketball, the mathematics of basketball, basically.”

The host references Seth Stevens-Davidowitz's book to illustrate the statistical advantages in basketball based on height and how these advantages can be inherited. This discussion leads to a broader examination of how children of successful parents navigate their own identities and achievements in the shadow of their parents' accomplishments.

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Stuck

Best for Individuals interested in social issues and economic policyOften cited around housing affordability crisis

“'Stuck' is mentioned as a book about the history of zoning rules and how they impact housing development.”

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Sentiment: Deep Dive

Trigger: housing affordability crisis

For: Individuals interested in social issues and economic policy

Key quote: “If you can't afford your house, you're less likely to get married. You're less likely to have kids.”

The host discusses the profound impact of housing affordability on social issues, referencing the book 'Stuck' to illustrate how financial constraints can hinder personal milestones like marriage and parenthood. The mention serves to highlight the interconnectedness of economic conditions and mental health, emphasizing that housing is a fundamental social problem.

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Atomic Habits

James Clear

Best for Writers and aspiring authorsOften cited around contemporary writing careers

“James Clear did the same thing. You're in a sort of contemporary club of people who kind of did the same of peaking in high school with regards to their writing career.”

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Sentiment: Passing Reference

Trigger: contemporary writing careers

For: Writers and aspiring authors

Key quote: “You're in a sort of contemporary club of people who kind of did the same of peaking in high school with regards to their writing career.”

The host briefly mentions 'Atomic Habits' in relation to James Clear's experiences. This reference highlights a common theme among writers who peaked early in their careers.

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Shapiro's famous line

Best for Individuals interested in personal finance and storytellingOften cited around importance of storytelling

“Shapiro's famous line, which you kind of re-worked in the book, of facts don't care about your feelings.”

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Sentiment: Critical Analysis

Trigger: importance of storytelling

For: Individuals interested in personal finance and storytelling

Key quote: “Shapiro's famous line, which you kind of re-worked in the book, of facts don't care about your feelings.”

The host references Shapiro's famous line to emphasize the disconnect between facts and feelings in storytelling. This highlights the challenge of conveying personal finance concepts effectively when emotional responses often overshadow rational arguments.

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New York

Edward Rutherford

Best for Readers interested in American history and the impact of wealth on identity.Often cited around Vanderbilt family biographies

“The book's name is New York, which is a historical fiction tracking the history of New York City from its early days to 9-11.”

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Sentiment: Passing Reference

Trigger: Vanderbilt family biographies

For: Readers interested in American history and the impact of wealth on identity.

Key quote: “A lot of it was mansions and parties and yachts and just the most ostentatious lifestyle that you can imagine.”

The host references the book 'New York' by Edward Rutherford while discussing the extravagant lifestyles of the Vanderbilt family. This mention highlights the contrast between their opulent mansions and the desire for a more humble living space, reflecting on the burdens of inherited wealth.

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Musk

Walter Isaacson

Best for Readers interested in biographies and the impact of legacy on success.Often cited around Elon Musk's inheritance

“The discussion references Walter Isaacson's book about Musk, highlighting his drive to disprove his childhood experiences.”

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Sentiment: Passing Reference

Trigger: Elon Musk's inheritance

For: Readers interested in biographies and the impact of legacy on success.

Key quote: “Imagine if one of Elon Musk's children is an entrepreneur and creates a business that's worth a billion dollars.”

The host briefly discusses the challenges faced by children of highly successful parents, using Elon Musk as an example. This leads to a mention of the book 'Musk' by Walter Isaacson, which explores Musk's life and achievements.

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The Art of Spending Money

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if you can use your money and supercharge that at age 30 do it

Bill Bryson

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Fantastic author, one of the greatest authors of our time.

The Silent Patient

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