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Modern WisdomMay 12, 2025

#940 - Cameron Hanes - The Harsh Price Of Extreme Performance

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#940 - Cameron Hanes - The Harsh Price Of Extreme Performance mentions Science of Storytelling by Will Store, The School of Life by Alain de Botton, Atomic Habits by James Clear, and Endure by Alex Hutchinson with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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tomorrow I've got will store like science of storytelling, fucking awesome author.

The School of Life
Alain de Botton

I think that the best ones are, and not everyone can do this.

Atomic Habits
James Clear

James Clear got this right in atomic habits where he said, you don't rise to the level of your goals. You fall to the level of your systems.

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Cameron Hanes is a bowhunter, ultramarathon runner, podcaster, and an author. How should we deal with suffering? Most people do everything they can to avoid it, but a rare few seek it out. What if pain isn't just something to survive, but something that deepens our gratitude for the moments that truly matter? Expect to learn what drives Cam to do what he does and what being “undeniable” means to him, what the biggest lesson most people learn when they first go hunting is, the hardest thing Cam has ever done physically, if hard work beats genetics and pedigree, how Cam raised his sons and and what he would do differently, how the average people can train themselves to deal better with suffering, how Cam would feel if he felt truly worth of his acheivements, and much more…
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Science of Storytelling
Will Store

The host mentions 'Science of Storytelling' by Will Store to emphasize the importance of storytelling in engaging wit…

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The School of Life
Alain de Botton

The host mentions 'The School of Life' to emphasize the importance of self-reflection and authenticity in one's work…

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Atomic Habits
James Clear

The host references 'Atomic Habits' by James Clear to emphasize the importance of having effective systems in place r…

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Endure
Alex Hutchinson

The host discusses the concept of suffering as a means to build resilience, drawing parallels between different cultu…

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Undeniable

The host discusses the concept of suffering in relation to work ethic, drawing parallels between different cultural b…

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Backcountry Bowhunting

The host briefly mentions 'Backcountry Bowhunting' in relation to their hunting experiences in Kodiak. This reference…

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Podcasters and content creatorsIndividuals seeking deeper meaning in their personal and professional pursuits.Individuals seeking personal development and motivation strategiesReaders interested in personal development and resilienceReaders interested in resilience and cultural perspectives on workhunters and outdoor enthusiasts

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Best for Podcasters and content creatorsOften cited around navigating podcast metrics

The speaker expresses excitement about speaking to Will Store, the author of 'Science of Storytelling', highlighting the anticipation for the conversation.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Podcasters and content creators
Key quote: tomorrow I've got will store like science of storytelling, fucking awesome author.
The host mentions 'Science of Storytelling' by Will Store to emphasize the importance of storytelling in engaging with audiences beyond just metrics. They believe that understanding storytelling can enhance the connection with listeners and improve the overall quality of the podcast experience.
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The School of Life
Alain de Botton
Best for Individuals seeking deeper meaning in their personal and professional pursuits.Often cited around personal growth and goals

The speaker mentions Alain de Botton from 'The School of Life' as part of a list of influential figures they wanted to have on their show.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals seeking deeper meaning in their personal and professional pursuits.
Key quote: I think that the best ones are, and not everyone can do this.
The host mentions 'The School of Life' to emphasize the importance of self-reflection and authenticity in one's work and life. They suggest that true fulfillment comes from being connected to one's projects rather than merely seeking external success.
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Atomic Habits
James Clear
Best for Individuals seeking personal development and motivation strategiesOften cited around goals and systems

The speaker references James Clear's book 'Atomic Habits' to discuss the importance of systems over goals in achieving success and longevity.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals seeking personal development and motivation strategies
Key quote: James Clear got this right in atomic habits where he said, you don't rise to the level of your goals. You fall to the level of your systems.
The host references 'Atomic Habits' by James Clear to emphasize the importance of having effective systems in place rather than solely focusing on goals. This perspective highlights the balance needed between achieving goals and maintaining motivation over time.
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Endure
Alex Hutchinson
Best for Readers interested in personal development and resilienceOften cited around resilience and suffering

Cam Haynes references his previous book 'Endure' and his desire to achieve a number one bestseller status with 'Undeniable'.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in personal development and resilience
Key quote: I guess, like I say, I get to turn the tables today and we missed each other on the first book on endure.
The host discusses the concept of suffering as a means to build resilience, drawing parallels between different cultural backgrounds. This leads to a mention of the book 'Endure', which likely explores similar themes of endurance and the human experience.
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Undeniable cover
Best for Readers interested in resilience and cultural perspectives on workOften cited around work ethic and suffering

Cam Haynes discusses his upcoming book 'Undeniable', which is set to release on May 6th and mentions his experiences related to it.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in resilience and cultural perspectives on work
Key quote: I guess, like I say, I get to turn the tables today and we missed each other on the first book on endure. And then you've got undeniable, which is a new one, which is fucking awesome, by the way.
The host discusses the concept of suffering in relation to work ethic, drawing parallels between different cultural backgrounds. They mention the book 'Undeniable' as a source that explores these themes in depth, highlighting its relevance to understanding resilience and purpose.
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Best for hunters and outdoor enthusiastsOften cited around hunting experiences in Kodiak

The speaker mentions their experience in Kodiak and references their book 'Backcountry Bowhunting' while discussing a hunting trip.

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Sentiment: Passing Reference
For: hunters and outdoor enthusiasts
Key quote: The speaker mentions their experience in Kodiak and references their book 'Backcountry Bowhunting' while discussing a hunting trip.
The host briefly mentions 'Backcountry Bowhunting' in relation to their hunting experiences in Kodiak. This reference serves to highlight the practical insights gained from the book during their trip.
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Science of Storytelling
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tomorrow I've got will store like science of storytelling, fucking awesome author.
The School of Life
Modern Wisdom · 1:08:05
I think that the best ones are, and not everyone can do this.
Atomic Habits
Modern Wisdom · 1:08:37
James Clear got this right in atomic habits where he said, you don't rise to the level of your goals. You fall to the level of your systems.
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Science of Storytelling cover
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Science of Storytelling
Will Store

The host mentions 'Science of Storytelling' by Will Store to emphasize the importance of storytelling in engaging with audiences beyond just metric…

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The School of Life cover
Mentioned at 1:08:05
The School of Life
Alain de Botton

The host mentions 'The School of Life' to emphasize the importance of self-reflection and authenticity in one's work and life. They suggest that tr…

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Atomic Habits cover
Mentioned at 1:08:37
Atomic Habits
James Clear

The host references 'Atomic Habits' by James Clear to emphasize the importance of having effective systems in place rather than solely focusing on…

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Tree of Life

Confidence: 90%

The speaker compares their parenting style to that of the father in the movie 'Tree of Life', highlighting the contrast between playtime and discipline.