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Modern WisdomSep 13, 2025

#993 - Katie Herzog - A Controversial New Cure for Alcohol Dependence

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#993 - Katie Herzog - A Controversial New Cure for Alcohol Dependence mentions Drink Your Way Sober by Katie Herzog, The Sinclair Method, and the big book with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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Katie Herzog discusses her self-help book, which aims to provide guidance for people dealing with alcohol use disorder and challenges the abstinence-…

I had read about the Sinclair method in the Atlantic in an article from several years before.

my book starts with a quote from the big book, which is, which is the Bible of AA.

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Katie Herzog is a journalist, podcaster, and writer. What does it take to get sober in today’s world? From traditional paths like AA to the grit of going cold turkey, the old methods of sobriety may no longer be enough. But what if counterintuitive, cutting-edge approaches, backed by modern science, offer new ways to manage alcohol use? And what does that say about the value of the old ways? Expect to learn why drinking might be a viable route to going sober, why white knuckling alcohol isn’t a great option, If AA were invented today what methods would be its first step, the difference between getting sober and living sober, the different reasons people drink and the underlying reasons why people tend to drink more than others, advice for people who need to quit but don’t want to stop, and much more…
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  • The conversation centers on alcohol use disorder.
  • A second recurring theme is alcohol use disorder treatment.
  • Referenced books include Drink Your Way Sober by Katie Herzog and The Sinclair Method.
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Individuals dealing with alcohol use disorderIndividuals struggling with alcohol addiction or seeking alternative treatment methods.Individuals interested in addiction recovery and the evolution of treatment methods.

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Drink Your Way Sober cover
Best for Individuals dealing with alcohol use disorderOften cited around alcohol use disorder

Katie Herzog discusses her self-help book, which aims to provide guidance for people dealing with alcohol use disorder and challenges the abstinence-only narrative.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals dealing with alcohol use disorder
Key quote: Katie Herzog discusses her self-help book, which aims to provide guidance for people dealing with alcohol use disorder and challenges the abstinence-only narrative.
Katie Herzog's book offers practical advice for individuals struggling with alcohol use disorder. It challenges the traditional abstinence-only approach, making it a valuable resource for those seeking alternative methods to manage their relationship with alcohol.
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The Sinclair Method cover
Best for Individuals struggling with alcohol addiction or seeking alternative treatment methods.Often cited around alcohol use disorder treatment

The main message of the book is about the Sinclair method and naltrexone, providing a step-by-step self-help guide for those dealing with alcohol use disorder.

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Sentiment: Highly Recommended
For: Individuals struggling with alcohol addiction or seeking alternative treatment methods.
Key quote: I had read about the Sinclair method in the Atlantic in an article from several years before.
The host mentions 'The Sinclair Method' as a personal solution to his alcohol-related issues during the COVID pandemic. He highlights its effectiveness based on his own experience and the scientific research behind it.
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Best for Individuals interested in addiction recovery and the evolution of treatment methods.Often cited around making amends in AA

The speaker mentions their book starting with a quote from the big book, which is described as the Bible of AA and a text that everyone reads.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in addiction recovery and the evolution of treatment methods.
Key quote: my book starts with a quote from the big book, which is, which is the Bible of AA.
The host discusses the complexities of making amends and the paradox of addiction, referencing the foundational text of Alcoholics Anonymous, 'the big book'. They highlight how the book's perspective on alcoholism and potential cures has evolved since its publication in the 1930s.
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Drink Your Way Sober
Modern Wisdom · 1:34:35
Katie Herzog discusses her self-help book, which aims to provide guidance for people dealing with alcohol use disorder and challenges the abstinence-…
The Sinclair Method
Modern Wisdom · 1:32:22
I had read about the Sinclair method in the Atlantic in an article from several years before.
the big book
Modern Wisdom · 50:25
my book starts with a quote from the big book, which is, which is the Bible of AA.
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Drink Your Way Sober cover
Mentioned at 1:34:35
Drink Your Way Sober
Katie Herzog

Katie Herzog's book offers practical advice for individuals struggling with alcohol use disorder. It challenges the traditional abstinence-only app…

Direct Amazon listing · affiliate link
The Sinclair Method cover
Mentioned at 1:32:22
The Sinclair Method

The host mentions 'The Sinclair Method' as a personal solution to his alcohol-related issues during the COVID pandemic. He highlights its effective…

Direct Amazon listing · affiliate link
the big book cover
Mentioned at 50:25
the big book

The host discusses the complexities of making amends and the paradox of addiction, referencing the foundational text of Alcoholics Anonymous, 'the…

Direct Amazon listing · affiliate link

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The Hangover

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The movie, The Hangover was an entire movie about this. That's the whole narrative was you do stuff when you're drunk and lol, that's funny because everybody does that stuff.