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Modern WisdomMar 17, 2022

#448 - Jon Birger - Are Women In Charge Of The Dating Market?

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#448 - Jon Birger - Are Women In Charge Of The Dating Market? mentions The End of Men by Hanna Rosin, Make Your Move, College Prowler, and John Berger with timestamps, quotes, and episode context.

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The End of Men
Hanna Rosin

If you read Hannah Rosen's book, the anti-social behavior book, it's, it's Hannah Rosen's book, the end of men.

a big theme of both data nomics and my new book, make your move is encouraging people to get past this and to be open minded about, you know, dating…

It's basically a book written for applicants.

Guest: Jon Birger
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Jon Birger is an award-winning magazine writer, a contributor to Fortune, a dating expert and an author. Typically men are the sexual protagonists. They're the ones who make the first move, they're the ones who come up with cheesy chat-up lines and deal with approach anxiety and rejection. But in a world where women are struggling to find men they're attracted to, what happens if this role is reversed and women start to be more proactive? Expect to learn why the changing sex ratios on university campuses is creating a problem for men and women's dating prospects, how an experiment on dating approach-strategies earned a Nobel Prize, why it is always statistically in your advantage to make the first move, whether we can fix the problem of raising up men's outcomes in life and much more...
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The End of Men
Hanna Rosin

The host mentions 'The End of Men' to highlight the connection between sex ratios and antisocial behavior, particular…

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Make Your Move

The host mentions 'Make Your Move' as a continuation of the themes explored in their first book, 'Date Anomics.' They…

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College Prowler

The host mentions 'College Prowler' to highlight how student reviews provide insights into dating life on college cam…

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John Berger

The host mentioned John Berger to highlight the complexities of the dating market and how societal factors influence…

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Date Anomics

The host mentioned 'Date Anomics' to explain the gender imbalance in the dating market and how it affects relationshi…

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Datanomics

The host discusses the implications of the book 'Datanomics' in understanding the challenges faced by women in the da…

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Why Men Love Bitches

The host discusses how traditional dating strategies, particularly those promoted in popular dating books like 'Why M…

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The Rules

The host mentions 'The Rules' to highlight how traditional dating advice often revolves around playing hard to get, w…

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  • A second recurring theme is dating dynamics and competition.
  • Referenced books include The End of Men by Hanna Rosin and Make Your Move.
  • The strongest audience signal points to Readers interested in gender studies and societal behavior and Individuals navigating modern dating challenges.

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Readers interested in gender studies and societal behaviorIndividuals navigating modern dating challengesYoung people applying to college and their parents.Readers interested in gender studies and dating dynamicsIndividuals interested in dating dynamics and gender studies.Individuals interested in dating and relationship dynamics

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The End of Men
Hanna Rosin
Best for Readers interested in gender studies and societal behaviorOften cited around sex ratio and behavior

If you read Hannah Rosen's book, The End of Men, she has a whole section all about rising criminality rates among women and how putting women into increasingly competitive situations has led to a rise in female criminality.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in gender studies and societal behavior
Key quote: If you read Hannah Rosen's book, the anti-social behavior book, it's, it's Hannah Rosen's book, the end of men.
The host mentions 'The End of Men' to highlight the connection between sex ratios and antisocial behavior, particularly among men and women in competitive situations. The book provides insights into how societal changes and imbalances can lead to increased criminality and behavioral shifts across genders.
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Make Your Move cover
Best for Individuals navigating modern dating challengesOften cited around gender imbalance in dating

Make Your Move is introduced as a book aimed at women, encouraging them to be more assertive in dating and to avoid online dating, which the author believes is detrimental to relationships.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals navigating modern dating challenges
Key quote: a big theme of both data nomics and my new book, make your move is encouraging people to get past this and to be open minded about, you know, dating people, you know, you know, with different educational backgrounds, because I think that's the key to solving this problem.
The host mentions 'Make Your Move' as a continuation of the themes explored in their first book, 'Date Anomics.' They emphasize the importance of being open-minded in dating, particularly regarding educational backgrounds, to address the challenges posed by the gender imbalance in the dating pool.
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College Prowler cover
Best for Young people applying to college and their parents.Often cited around impact of sex ratios

College Prowler is described as a book that provides insights into college life, including dating experiences, based on student reviews.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Young people applying to college and their parents.
Key quote: It's basically a book written for applicants.
The host mentions 'College Prowler' to highlight how student reviews provide insights into dating life on college campuses. This context is crucial for understanding the broader implications of sex ratios on campus culture, particularly in relation to dating dynamics.
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Best for Readers interested in gender studies and dating dynamicsOften cited around dating market analysis

The speaker mentions John Berger in the context of discussing dynamics in dating and relationships, indicating a connection to his work.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Readers interested in gender studies and dating dynamics
Key quote: the origin of my first book, Date Anomics, was basically just trying to explain how we got to a world in which dating had become so much easier for men than for women.
The host mentioned John Berger to highlight the complexities of the dating market and how societal factors influence dating dynamics. The discussion revolves around the author's exploration of gender imbalances in dating and the implications of these trends.
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Date Anomics cover
Best for Individuals interested in dating dynamics and gender studies.Often cited around dating market analysis

The origin of my first book, Date Anomics, was basically just trying to explain how we got to a world in which dating had become so much easier for men than for women.

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Sentiment: Deep Dive
For: Individuals interested in dating dynamics and gender studies.
Key quote: the origin of my first book, Date Anomics, was basically just trying to explain how we got to a world in which dating had become so much easier for men than for women.
The host mentioned 'Date Anomics' to explain the gender imbalance in the dating market and how it affects relationships. The book serves as a foundation for understanding the complexities of modern dating dynamics influenced by educational disparities.
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Datanomics cover
Best for Individuals interested in dating and relationship dynamicsOften cited around dating dynamics and competition

Datanomics is discussed as a book that addresses the dating market and the issues women face in finding partners, with the author reflecting on the feedback received during the book tour.

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Sentiment: Critical Analysis
For: Individuals interested in dating and relationship dynamics
Key quote: And the reason I wrote the book is because I didn't understand.
The host discusses the implications of the book 'Datanomics' in understanding the challenges faced by women in the dating market. They highlight the book's exploration of societal issues affecting relationships, while also acknowledging its lack of actionable solutions.
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Why Men Love Bitches cover
Best for women navigating modern datingOften cited around dating strategies and norms

Why Men Love Bitches is cited as another dating book that promotes playing hard to get, which the speaker believes is outdated advice in light of recent societal changes.

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Sentiment: Critical Analysis
For: women navigating modern dating
Key quote: pretty much every popular dating book that's been written over the past 30 years, from the rules to ignore the guy, get the guy to why men love bitches, they all revolve around a very complicated version of playing hard to get.
The host discusses how traditional dating strategies, particularly those promoted in popular dating books like 'Why Men Love Bitches', are becoming less effective in the modern dating landscape. He argues that the Me Too movement has shifted the dynamics of dating, making the old rules of playing hard to get less applicable and potentially detrimental.
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The Rules cover
Best for Individuals interested in modern dating dynamicsOften cited around dating strategies and culture

The Rules is mentioned as a popular dating book that revolves around playing hard to get, which the speaker argues is less effective in the current dating climate.

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Sentiment: Critical Analysis
For: Individuals interested in modern dating dynamics
Key quote: pretty much every popular dating book that's been written over the past 30 years, from the rules to ignore the guy, get the guy to why men love bitches, they all revolve around a very complicated version of playing hard to get.
The host mentions 'The Rules' to highlight how traditional dating advice often revolves around playing hard to get, which may not be effective in today's dating landscape. They suggest that the Me Too movement has shifted perceptions and behaviors in dating, making old strategies less relevant.
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The End of Men cover
Mentioned at 9:17
The End of Men
Hanna Rosin

The host mentions 'The End of Men' to highlight the connection between sex ratios and antisocial behavior, particularly among men and women in comp…

Direct Amazon listing · affiliate link
Make Your Move cover
Mentioned at 26:07
Make Your Move

The host mentions 'Make Your Move' as a continuation of the themes explored in their first book, 'Date Anomics.' They emphasize the importance of b…

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College Prowler cover
Mentioned at 18:52
College Prowler

The host mentions 'College Prowler' to highlight how student reviews provide insights into dating life on college campuses. This context is crucial…

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