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“Before he joined the company, he had read the book Odyssey, Pepsi to Apple by John Sculley, who had joined Apple as CEO in the mid-1980s, and then ousted Steve Jobs in a boardroom coup.”
Sentiment: Deep Dive
Trigger: leadership transitions at Amazon
For: Business leaders and aspiring CEOs
Key quote: “Before I went out there, I promised myself and my family that I would never do to Jeff what Sculley did to Steve Jobs.”
The host mentions 'Pepsi to Apple' to illustrate the importance of founder loyalty in leadership transitions. Galley, reflecting on his role at Amazon, vowed not to repeat Sculley's actions with Jobs, emphasizing the unique vision of founders like Bezos.
